using hcg during aas

easiest way to do hcg is every 4 weeks, 1500 IU MON WED FRI clomid 50 mg EOD is good too

use clomid during also?

I use HCG or CLOMID

so i can just stick to hcg during then clomid post cycle

thanks for the help Alin

hcg wont be needed in a 12 wk cycle bro its used on longer cycles. it does nothing to help aid in recovery and could be more harmfull then good in short cycles here is when hcg should be used in a cycle wk 1- 16 test 800 mg wk wk 1-16 eq 600 mg wk wk 13-19 winny 50 mg ed wk 16-19 prop 150 mg ed wk 12,15,18 i would use 1500 ius 3 x wk clomid 3 days out

[i]d in recovery and could be more harmfull then good in short cyclest [/B] I always did hcg in short cycles. Could you explain why could be more harmfull ?

It's more harmfull because your ledig(Is that spelled correctly) cells adapt to the HCG. So when you really need it for post cycle recovery it wont work as well.

It's more harmfull because your ledig(Is that spelled correctly) cells adapt to the HCG. So when you really need it for post cycle recovery it wont work as well.

It's more harmfull because your ledig(Is that spelled correctly) cells adapt to the HCG. So when you really need it for post cycle recovery it wont work as well.>> no way. PROs use HCG every 4 weeks when they do all year round testosterone.

That's because it hardens them up. Your body adapts to the HCG and it will eventually be worthless, even to the pros.

Originally posted by Ladaca That's because it hardens them up. Your body adapts to the HCG and it will eventually be worthless, even to the pros. hardens what ? LADACA I think you are out of subject :sleep: I know that big doses of HCG could do serious damage to your leydig cells ( leydig cells does not afapt as LADACA said right ? ==posted by xcel on www.professionalmuscle.com == HCG post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural Testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production. From the above discussion it is clear that HCG is best used during a cycle to avoid testicular atrophy. 4plates could you explain why pregnyl is not good on short cycles?

It's main reason for use is for Post cycle recovery like you said, but HCG also will harden your muscles up. As for it hurting you, read this: Quote from Steroids.com = "It has been speculated that the prolonged use of HCG could repress the body’s own production of gonadotropins permanently. This is why the short cycles are the best way to go."

Originally posted by Alin [ no way. PROs use HCG every 4 weeks when they do all year round testosterone. [/B] thats the reason they use it! for yr round cycles. hcg only mimics (pretends) NTRto avoid testicular atrophy. if you were to shut your natural test production down for a full yr , your body could shut it down permenently. hcg tricks your body into thinking it is producing testosterone and keeps them from shutting down. if you run hcg on short cycles or too late in a cycle it could cause counter-productive results.the hcg will make your body "think" its functioning correctly and the clomid will not work! think of it this way. put water in your gas tank and the guage will read full. but the car wont start.