as me amature ,, the products are bland but affordable and effective thumbs up for their hydro too
Originally posted by sp123 BigA, You live on it because you own Synthetek. That is a very biased comment and charging AU$60 for 2lbs (908g) of New Zealand WPI that costs AU$20 per kilo is very expensive. You can get the exact same New Zealand WPI from Myopure for $38 per kilo. On top of that, you should be using a protein blend, not a straight WPI product. Unless you enjoy pissing half of it in the toilet. : ) SP123 To begin with, I never hidden the fact that I am sponsored by Synth so I get all my products for free, but I don't own it. Price wise, the shops charge $60. Synth charges the shops $25, but it cannot undercut the shops on the website. So they only make $5. Don't start this crap about the time release protein you are trying to peddle. All your arguments in the past were not based on proper, real scientific studies that the medical community relies on, but just on so called 'scientific' studies that supplement companies invent and that you read about in the magazines. Time release blends are a marketing sham by companies to sell inferior protein blends, which cost at most $8/kg to make. WPI takes several hours to be absorbed, and this is from medical studies. Actually, hell, contact NZMP and I am sure they will confirm. Yes, WPI is the quickest absorbing protein, but when it takes several hours to be fully absorbed, what does it matter? Certainly is a better choice over any other proteins when it gives you no bloat, gas, etc. And yes, ALL whey in the world is manufactured by NZMP as they hold the world rights for it. And they don't give discounts either, so prices are uniform. So when you see companies like Optimum Nutrion selling WPI for $10/kg RETAIL, you know it's bullshit.
Originally posted by Amatuer sp123 I love you man, your like the nutrition king and I love it how you just shoot people down, funny as shit, fools being caught out trying to say how good the product is when they are affiliated with it (anyone remember The Mad Professor LOL!!!). yep, amateur
Originally posted by sp123 On top of that, you should be using a protein blend, not a straight WPI product. Unless you enjoy pissing half of it in the toilet. SP123 What type of blend would you suggest ? Say 50/50 - wpc/wpi ?
Originally posted by Amatuer sp123 I love you man, your like the nutrition king and I love it how you just shoot people down, funny as shit, fools being caught out trying to say how good the product is when they are affiliated with it (anyone remember The Mad Professor LOL!!!). Mate, BigA is no fool. ...and the other guy also has an interest in the protein argument. Nothing wrong with that, but let's call a spade a spade.
Bump, watching closely with keen interest, big A and spc both have interesting ideas
Hey I never called BigA a fool, I don't even know the guy, I just find it amusing, if you read sizematters you'll see very interesting thread on NANO Creatine ๐ Sorry if I offended anyone ๐
Originally posted by Big A Don't start this crap about the time release protein you are trying to peddle. It looks like Sythetek has jumped on the bullshit train as well then, releasing "SyntheBlend - Due to the various proteins included, SyntheBLEND™ quickly replenishes nitrogen stores in hard trained muscles, as well as having a sustained effect, ensuring nitrogen levels are kept high for many hours after consumption." All your arguments in the past were not based on proper, real scientific studies that the medical community relies on, but just on so called 'scientific' studies that supplement companies invent and that you read about in the magazines. "Scientific" studies companies invent? Interesting... Seeing I am not referring to what Muscletech does, you should check out the following link: http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/94/26/14930.pdf Time release blends are a marketing sham by companies to sell inferior protein blends, which cost at most $8/kg to make. WPI takes several hours to be absorbed, and this is from medical studies. Actually, hell, contact NZMP and I am sure they will confirm. Synthetek must be one these "marketing sham" companies too then. At most AUS$8 per kg to make? Yes, anyone can add whey protein concentrate, soy protein and calcium caseinate. Try adding some Micellar casein that costs more that US$7 per pound (more than US$15 per kilo) and then you can talk quality protein blends. Yes, WPI is the quickest absorbing protein, but when it takes several hours to be fully absorbed, what does it matter? Certainly is a better choice over any other proteins when it gives you no bloat, gas, etc. After approximately 2 hours of ingestion from whey protein, the amino acids in the blood stream drop below normal, leaving you in a catabolic state. Any "quality" protein powder will not give you bloating or gas. And yes, ALL whey in the world is manufactured by NZMP as they hold the world rights for it. And they don't give discounts either, so prices are uniform. So when you see companies like Optimum Nutrion selling WPI for $10/kg RETAIL, you know it's bullshit. Sorry BigA, but I do not know who has mislead you, but believing NZMP is the "only" manufacturer of whey in the world and has the "world rights" to manufacturing whey protein, is almost believing Mount Franklin sources all Spring Water in the world and has the world wide rights to it. NZMP is "a" manufacturer of whey protein, and at that, they are very good, not the best, but very good. They are certainly not the "best" in the world, the "only" ones in the world and the only ones who have the rights to manufacture whey protein. While we are on this topic, could you please tell me exactly what rights they hold? SP123
Originally posted by anon What type of blend would you suggest ? Say 50/50 - wpc/wpi ? A whey, egg and casein based blend. SP123
oh shit theres this crap going on herev 2 , only not about creatine LOL sp123 u knw u knw ure shit mate, keep us informed ๐ cheers X
To make everything clear here. 1. I have total respect for BigA as an individual. I do not know him personally, have never met him and he has never shown any disrespect to myself. More importantly, I respect his interests in Synthetek and I am not directing any negative comments at BigA himself. 2. Yes, I do have an interest in the protein area and I have been open and honest with ALL members of this board from day one. 3. I am only educating the consumer, offering cheaper, more viable alternatives. Nothing more, nothing less. 4. I do not think BigA is a fool or ANYONE else on this board for that matter. Everyone can contribute in one way or another. We are all here to learn and share as a community. SP123
Originally posted by anon What type of blend would you suggest ? Say 50/50 - wpc/wpi ? wpc/wpi imo is more for economical reasons not really a very good 'true' blend. BigA I don't think anyone can have a right to a natural food component? Thats like having a copyright to egg or milk, cocoa powder?! Not possible imo ๐
one day ๐ I am thinking about putting my right arm in the over 80kg category at the next show ๐
lol
You got some tough competition for your arm in the O'80kg class BIGKIWI, my schlong is entering the same class...LOL!