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26/08/2020 7:10 pm
Been suffering for about a decade now from quite severe sleep apnea.Even with my bipap i feel totally out of balance all day long...lethargic all day with a bunch of energy bursts here and there and then back to lethargy.
Apart from the usual ,weight loss which had little effect anyway,what could be done in terms of supplements and chemistry to provide an even energy level throughout the day ,or better sleep when i do get to sleep for a bit ?
Not talking about stimulants or sleeping pills,but rather some options that would normalise neurotransmitter levels...any help appreciated.
26/08/2020 7:29 pm
thats a toughy,lets have doc chime in here first
26/08/2020 7:47 pm
sometimes the sleep cycle is very out of wack and needs to be reset. See a doc and get medication. Try klonopin for 7 nights----only. Doxepin is also good (it's a tricyclic antidepressant used in rehabs for sleep problems). If you are thinking about supplements: 500 mg. magnesium, 3-6 mg melatonin, 2 gm tryptophan.
And we'll collect the moments one by one. I guess that's how the future's done. Feist, "Mushaboom", 2005
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26/08/2020 8:16 pm
Wouldn't using klonopin be dangerous ? I was told that as an apnea patient,sleeping pills that suppress the reflex that wakes me up when out of oxygen could cause me to suffocate.
How should i use these supplements time-wise ? Half an hour before sleep time ?
Thanks for the replies.
26/08/2020 8:34 pm
Wouldn't using klonopin be dangerous ? I was told that as an apnea patient,sleeping pills that suppress the reflex that wakes me up when out of oxygen could cause me to suffocate.How should i use these supplements time-wise ? Thanks for the replies.
Take the supplements around 20-30 minutes prior to retiring. NO tv or computer in bed. Quiet for 1 hr before retiring. Light reading. Room should be dark and slightly cool. If you are still not asleep within 20-30 minutes, get out of bed and do not return until you feel drowsy. Keep repeating cycle as needed.
The meds that I recommended are those that are used by a local psychiatrist who also runs his own sleep lab. I work with a client who uses the CPAP and the meds from the same doc. so you might want to look for a psychiatrist or even neurologist who specializes in sleep in your area. So many physical and mental things do not work well when we cannot sleep.
And we'll collect the moments one by one. I guess that's how the future's done. Feist, "Mushaboom", 2005
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26/08/2020 8:53 pm
Ok,thank you.
How about during the day when i feel drowsy and sleepy all the time ?
I use modafinil but it really messes up with sleep even though i try to space it as much as possible with sleeping time (i take it as soon as i wake up).
Anything else with shorter half life ?
26/08/2020 9:17 pm
Ok,thank you.
How about during the day when i feel drowsy and sleepy all the time ?
I use modafinil but it really messes up with sleep even though i try to space it as much as possible with sleeping time (i take it as soon as i wake up).
Anything else with shorter half life ?
I've used it for a few years. I take half on waking and half around noon.
And we'll collect the moments one by one. I guess that's how the future's done. Feist, "Mushaboom", 2005