Winny ?

When I tried taking 40-50mg of Tbol, my thighs felt like they were solid rock......all the time. When I went down to 30mg it mostly went away. When I tried to bike, they would get even more engorged and start to cramp up: pumps.

another thing im getting is night sweats. do any of you get this off test or winny? the only things i have previous experience with is PH's and designer stuff like ergomax so its new to me.

Posted by: 400runner

another thing im getting is night sweats. do any of you get this off test or winny? the only things i have previous experience with is PH's and designer stuff like ergomax so its new to me.

This is just too funny, your winny sides match my TBOL sides....but now when I take winny, I'm starting to wonder about if I got bad winny because I'm not feeling pumps or getting nightsweats - like I did with TBOL on my last cycle.

Just pray you dont get the headaches I got when I first started TBOL.

I lowered the dossage a little for a couple weeks (20mg) then went up to 30mg.....although it was TBOL, the sides were exactly what your describing, so maybe it'll work for you.....just keep hydrated!!

One thing that helped me was going all out for 5 minutes as part of your warmup, I found that doing this on all my workouts, warming up, then going hard till the pumps were unbearable, then quitting for 5 minutes, then starting all over again...seemed to work for me when I was doing 30mg a day of TBOL (albeit your talking a 30 minute warmup....)...of course I see from your username that your a runner, so I dont know how you work out.

I just got done doing an hour steady state ride, and I did have slight cramps 10 minutes into it, but 5 min of spinning, and I was able to come back on. There was no noticable difference between my power output last week and this week - but I'm only a few days into the winny and I dont really feel much of anything. Strange, its British Dragon stuff, so it should be good unless its counterfit.

**This just goes to show you the variable nature of sides (assuming my winny is good). Your getting pumps and nightsweats a few days into it, and I'm wondering if its working....

I'm wondering if my winny is bad???? I've been taking it for 5 days or so, shouldn't I feel something? 40mg a day with 10mg of TBOL....

How long did others find winny took to kick in? Lack of sides common? I'm wondering cause 400runner is posting all kinds of sides...

1 week for me. Very noticable. 2mg 5X's/day.

i noticed it in about 5 days

Okay, had night sweats so bad my wife swears I pee'd the bed....my knees are starting to feel a little like they do when I overdo weight training and cycling at the same time......but that could be imagination combined with cycling hard on the bike three days in a row. After an easy day or so, I should be better able to tell if its the winny or not.

Posted by: pista

Okay, had night sweats so bad my wife swears I pee'd the bed....my knees are starting to feel a little like they do when I overdo weight training and cycling at the same time......but that could be imagination combined with cycling hard on the bike three days in a row. After an easy day or so, I should be better able to tell if its the winny or not.

I've done a few winny only cycles, and never got night sweats.....weird. But tren/eq/test, yup, sweats...

Posted by: pista

I'm wondering if my winny is bad???? I've been taking it for 5 days or so, shouldn't I feel something? 40mg a day with 10mg of TBOL....

How long did others find winny took to kick in? Lack of sides common? I'm wondering cause 400runner is posting all kinds of sides...

One weird thing about winny, especially oral winny (UG labs mostly), is that most people have no problem ordering these things internationally, etc., but very few realize they could just get the powder themselves via the same method (no, I'm not here to offer up suppliers), and cap it themselves. 20 grams of winny powder = about 800 x 25mg caps. Cost, about $70 US...

this is true. i think im going to become a home chemist and do all my own stuff in the near future

Okay, the winny is kicking in....

My knees feel like an old man's.....arthritic feeling, like I've lifted and biked hard too many days in a row.

My "steady state" power is the same (i.e. no noticable increase in my 2x20 power). But my hard-interval power has increased by a whopping 50 watts....

I'm going to lower the dosage though, as It took about 30 stinking minutes to warm up tonight and I still had pumps the first couple intervals. Going to try 10mg tbol with 20mg winny.

Posted by: pista

Okay, the winny is kicking in....

My knees feel like an old man's.....arthritic feeling, like I've lifted and biked hard too many days in a row.

My "steady state" power is the same (i.e. no noticable increase in my 2x20 power). But my hard-interval power has increased by a whopping 50 watts....

I'm going to lower the dosage though, as It took about 30 stinking minutes to warm up tonight and I still had pumps the first couple intervals. Going to try 10mg tbol with 20mg winny.

I have yet to experience the bad joint pain others have with winny......but for those who do get it, do you think something like a glucosomine/chondroitin supplement might help?

10mg of winny a day lol come on now. you must weigh 90 lbs to feel the effect at that low of a dose. I would imagine atleast 25-30 for endurance to kick in well. Have you noticed any increase in endruance big time in timing at 10 mg?

Posted by: ajusaf

10mg of winny a day lol come on now. you must weigh 90 lbs to feel the effect at that low of a dose. I would imagine atleast 25-30 for endurance to kick in well. Have you noticed any increase in endruance big time in timing at 10 mg?

You didnt read closely enough.... 10mg TBOL with 40mg of Winny is what I was taking....yes I did feel the effect of 40mg of Winny on the joints....

But you are right 10mg of winny is pointless considering I'm now doing 250mg of test E. per week....so the winny went in the garbage.

for endurance I would use like they said 150-180 mg a week of test and 20-30 mg of winny ed