This from the Dave Palumbo.: "....while masteron, being a DHT derivative (ie. is synthisized from DHT), does NOT cause any DHT- related side effects (eg. hairloss), since it no longer retains any of DHT's functionality. Many people make the same mistake of thinking winstrol and primobolan(because they are synthesized from DHT) still retain the same properties as well." So what so you guys think?
I think the only hairloss I ever experienced was on a pure Winstrol cycle. Lost an inch on my temple area was on NOTHING else. After stopping the Winstrol I lost NO more hair. So go figure. I was using the 50MG oral tabs, this may be relevant.
Winy DEFINATELY CAUSES hairloss.... Its the worst thing for my hairline for me and same for a good bro of mine... problem is its our fav. gear..... HArd to choose between shreaded strength through the roof, and hair on your head..... Test doesn't cause any hairloss at all for me..... don't know if it has a damn thing to do with the fact winy is a dht deriv. but either way it causes dramatic hairloss bro.... Some feel different and experience different though.... I think we've all got certain receptors in certain areas.. kind of like why some get gyno from 100mg cyp or 100mg deca and some dont' get any at all. I ofcourse get the shit end of that stick as well.... gyno.... I'm going to be one ulgy motherfucker when I get about 40-50yrs old..... No hair, no muscle and a nice big left tit!!!!!! Mabye someone on here knows if propecia combate the problem of winy hairloss, without sacraficing the benefits.... ANyone?
I always thought of Dave Palumbo as an extremely intelligent man. After reading some of the things he suggests, I wonder if I just may be either too uninformed or MORE informed than Dave? I never noticed any hair loss from test. As soon as I added Winny my hair took a nose dive. Mind you, the last cycle I did was really long and because of that Im not sure if the loss was cycle length related or because of adding winny. I started taking Propecia a few months after my cycle but didnt stay on it long enough to tell if it was working for me because I was experiencing strength loss that I attribute to lowerd DHT levels.
Would minoxidil and spiro help combat hair loss from Winny?
Minoxidil is more of a growth agent. It does nothing to pervent DHT from effecting the hair. Spiro has a few tests done on it to show its effects on preventing hair loss but I have yet to hear over whelming evidence from users that it does what ts suppose to do, plus some users complain of an unpleasent oder that comes from the cream. i think youll have better luck just trying to get as big as possible and just shave it. At least a big guy can sport the bald look better than a bean pole can.
If you re are prone to hairloss, winny will make make the oroblem worse. I've seen many a bro lose hair related to winny intake.
Originally posted by bz420f Minoxidil is more of a growth agent. It does nothing to pervent DHT from effecting the hair. Spiro has a few tests done on it to show its effects on preventing hair loss but I have yet to hear over whelming evidence from users that it does what ts suppose to do, plus some users complain of an unpleasent oder that comes from the cream. i think youll have better luck just trying to get as big as possible and just shave it. At least a big guy can sport the bald look better than a bean pole can. The thing is, I have been balding since my early 20's - I am 32 now. I started using minoxidil and spiro about 4 months ago just prior to my 1st cycle (test/tren) and I have grown back a noticeable amount of hair. I am planning to use Winny in my next cycle. I am gonna shave my hair very short and use both minoxidil and spiro. If I still loose hair so be it. I wonder if it comes back later or if it's gone for good?
i think sometimes the chemistry gets in the way of real world experiences. both sources of info should be considered equally IMO.
Originally posted by jediclampet The thing is, I have been balding since my early 20's - I am 32 now. I started using minoxidil and spiro about 4 months ago just prior to my 1st cycle (test/tren) and I have grown back a noticeable amount of hair. I am planning to use Winny in my next cycle. I am gonna shave my hair very short and use both minoxidil and spiro. If I still loose hair so be it. I wonder if it comes back later or if it's gone for good? MAn, if i heard ALOT more promising posts like this than I would be jumping on spiro and all that other stuff too. You are only but a handfull of guys that say that you ve grown hair using spiro and Minoxidil. What was your type of balding? Diffuse or receeder? How much hair did you grow back?
Originally posted by bz420f MAn, if i heard ALOT more promising posts like this than I would be jumping on spiro and all that other stuff too. You are only but a handfull of guys that say that you ve grown hair using spiro and Minoxidil. What was your type of balding? Diffuse or receeder? How much hair did you grow back? My balding was mostly a severely receding hairline - the type of balding that minoxidil is not supposed to help. The problem with minoxidil, I hear, is that you have to stay on it forever or you will just lose the hair when you stop using minoxidil. But the generic version is pretty cheap. As far as how much hair I've regrown, not that much really. No one else has said anything to me but I can tell a difference. I am not really taking it for regrowth (although that's nice) but, more to minimize hair loss when on a cycle.
Originally posted by jediclampet My balding was mostly a severely receding hairline - the type of balding that minoxidil is not supposed to help. The problem with minoxidil, I hear, is that you have to stay on it forever or you will just lose the hair when you stop using minoxidil. But the generic version is pretty cheap. As far as how much hair I've regrown, not that much really. No one else has said anything to me but I can tell a difference. I am not really taking it for regrowth (although that's nice) but, more to minimize hair loss when on a cycle. Can you put the minoxdil on in the morning then put hair wax/gel on? I can't be bothered having to shampoo my hair at night also just to put something on it, well not for the rest of my life anyway!
Originally posted by Durabolin Can you put the minoxdil on in the morning then put hair wax/gel on? I can't be bothered having to shampoo my hair at night also just to put something on it, well not for the rest of my life anyway! I don't see why you couldn't "put the minoxdil on in the morning then put hair wax/gel on". Lately I only shampoo once a day (alternate coal tar and nizoral shampoo) and just apply the minoxidil by itself at night. While I am "on" I plan to apply some folligen with the AM minoxidil and and retin-a with the PM minoxidil. Try to apply spiro sometime in between. It does get to be a pain in the arse but that's my plan for my upcoming cycle with Winny (also test and EQ or maybe tren). We'll see if I actually do all that hair care stuff. I did for my last cycle.
I suppose one would have the greatest benefit from all these drugs if the hair loss is caught really early.
Again, another vote for spironolactone. Lost a lot of hair from testosterone cypionate (at low dosages too). Lost about 1" at the temples. After 4 weeks, spiro has caused some new growth AT THE TEMPLES!!!! (and they said it couldn't be done). Satient2003