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10/09/2018 7:21 am
[B]Of course.1/But these sort of studies are made for drug tests, they want to find some metabolites as reliable markers of the use of AAS. They do not make an inventory of all metabolites present in the sample.
2/In the presence of these metabolites we cannot exclude the endogeneous origin.
1) Usually they describe the found metabolites in detail and explain which ones will be suitable as markers.
2) Ok, granted, we can't exclude that there are other drugs that could yield trace amounts of testosterone. But lets not kid ourselves, if its that trace that you wouldn't notice the difference between having any and none at all on a decent cycle, then its obviously not relevant in regards to maintaining test levels in the normal range.
Endogenous test is easy to distinguish in blood tests, the blood test before shows normal ranges of test and LH, if test on-cycle shows a large discrepancy in favour of test, when LH is still lower, you know its not endogenous.
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I have only one about boldenone undecylenate and after 9 weeks of veterinary equipoise, his T level was low. I do not say that boldenone doesn't convert to T. I'm pretty sure it does. But the question is the rate of conversion. I have no answer.
What is the dose ? I'm usually seeing normal to high levels of test with 600 to 800 mg a week.
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10/09/2018 7:52 am
1) Usually they describe the found metabolites in detail and explain which ..........................
............Endogenous test is easy to distinguish in blood tests, the blood test before shows normal ranges of test and LH, if test on-cycle shows a large discrepancy in favour of test, when LH is still lower, you know its not endogenous.......................................................................................................................................ing normal to high levels of test with 600 to 800 mg a week.
To distinguish,it is better isotope ratio mass spectroscopy (IRMS)
which looks at isotopes of carbon. a person's natural hormones should contain a consistent ratio of carbon-12 to carbon-13.
In the testo-lh case luveris can be injected and cover the difference.
dr frankenstein
10/09/2018 8:30 am
But lets not kid ourselves, if its that trace that you wouldn't notice the difference between having any and none at all on a decent cycle, then its obviously not relevant in regards to maintaining test levels in the normal range.
My point was not different ...
What is the dose ? I'm usually seeing normal to high levels of test with 600 to 800 mg a week. [/B]
Veterinary equipoise 200mg/1ml each 5 days during 65 days. T #65 = 2,20 ng/ml.
Because boldenone is not a human drug, it is not very easy to find datas and reports.
10/09/2018 9:22 am
that seems to be a fairly low dose, ~280mg/wk. it might be enough to suppress endo test while not converting to enough test to replace endo. BC is talking about doses ~2-3 times that.
jb
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