Very First Cycle----Orals Please!

I asked this same question here before... I was told Anavar and D Bol... Look for "Best Oral Cycles" thread

So, what are you trying to do? Cut / bulk, how much training do you do and how long have you been doing it. How old are you? oldbiker

If your gonna do a cycle, then do it right, you need to get over the fear of injecting. It's the only way. BIG T

Huh ..... I can remember posting the same kind of thread when I first started comming to this board .... (inject myself ... are you kidding .. ) Glad I got over that fear !! -Natural

all orals are toxic and hard on the liver. Injectables ARE alot easier on the system and you would be better off just sticking a needle in your ass and going form their. You will get more gains to. -BIGwolf

Yes listen to the guys here,, get over your fear of injecting,, orals are much harder on your liver as most orals have been modified so that your liver doesn't break them down,, and they damage the liver as they pass through it,,,, or something like that

you are scared to death of the needle. When i did my first one, it took me 30 minutes of just staring at the motherfucker before i got up the guts. my hands were shaking uncontrollably. But honestly, glute shots are so fucking easy. they dont hurt, and it is almost impossible to strike anything with the needle. After you do your first one you will think it is a piece of cake. And hell, you could always have a friend do it for you if you are too nervous. If you have liver problems, the amount of orals that you would have to take to actually make gains would raise those values considerably. Seriously, just do 500mg/week of sustanon for 8 weeks(that is only 1 shot a week), follow it up with some clomid, and 20+ pounds later you will be thanking us for the advice.

Bro, if your not ready to take the plunge, step back and re-evaluate your decision to juice in the first place.

You are still going to only do an oral cycle for now aren't you. What you need to know, is how to do it carefully. If your liver values are high naturally, or because of illness, you are going to need to take some precautions. Here is the cycle I propose..... Anavar 30-40mg/ED for 5-6 weeks Winny 50mg/ED for 4 weeks. Clomid (at end) 100mg/ED (1 week), 50mg/ED (1 week) Maybe a 1 to 2 week overlap in the middle. I am nearing the end of an all oral cycle myself and although my reasons for doing it are much different from the fear of the jab, I will however, be jabbing next time around. I did 4 weeks dbol at 25mg/ED and 4 weeks winny at 50mg/ED. It has been hard on the liver until I found a quality source of milk thistle. You will need the following (especially with elevated liver values already): Milk Thistle (Silymarin, liquid if possible) at least 1000mg/ED (2x500mg doses) Alpha Lipoic Acid (oil based caps only) at least 250mg/ED Evening Primrose Oil at least 3000mg/ED (2x1500mg doses) I would run these doses for 4 weeks prior to your cycle, except for the Alpha Lipoic Acid. As soon as you start your cycle, add the ALA. Drink plenty of water, all day! Have a big glass by the bed. Be prepare to piss heaps. Food! Plenty of it. Find a very good protein source and make sure you are strict with it. Get plenty of calories and protein. The ALA will help with the uptake of the protein considerably so time your ALA dose prior to your workout so your post-workout shake is absorbed well. This should kickstart your planning. Be sure to do plenty of research. Side are minimal with this cycle, no gyno concerns, however the winny may cause some sides if you are prone. Althought there is no test in this cycle as such, the steriods may still have some effect in suppressing your natural test production. For that reason, I would have a packet of clomid available to take at the end. The gains from this cycle won't be HUGE, but they will be keepable. The clomid will make sure they are kept if any natural test suppression had occured. Hope this helps a little......just look after that liver. Both of these steroids are 17AA orals, so keep an eye on your body for signs that your liver isn't coping. Check for jaundice in the white of your eyes and your skin tone in general. After taking the precautions I have mentioned, if you see any signs during the cycle that your liver isn't coping - DROP THE ORALS IMMEDIATELY. Continue taking the liver clensers, all three, for at least another four weeks. Then get your liver values checked by your doctor. Take care. Blonski

BUMP for helping newbies!

BRO IF YOUR SCARED ABOUT INJECTING DONT!! I INJECTED FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY AND I LOVED IT. YOU DONT FEEL A THING. ITS A RUSH. I CANT WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK!!