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Zircon
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Hey,

Does anyone know if there is a differece in suppression between using test enan at 150mg, 250mg o 500mg per week, for 8 weeks? Or is the only difference that of lipid inversion?


   
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Zircon
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No ideas or studies on this at all?


   
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Here is something in this direction done with of 100 mg/wk, 250 mg/wk, or 500 mg/wk testosteronecypionate. (1)

(1)
MacIndoe JH, Perry PJ, Yates WR, Holman TL, Ellingrod VL, Scott SD. Testosterone suppression of the HPT axis.
J Investig Med. 1997 Oct;45(8):441-7.


   
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Big Cat
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That study seems to suggest a lot of inter-individual and inter-dose variation. So basically there is no conclusion to be drawn. Using more will supress you more, but there seems to be no correlation between the increased supression and the increase in dose.

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BigCat,

I've read a few of your articles at bodybuilding.com . I agree with your views on the anabolism of estrogen. Altough this post is xtremely off topic I'd like to know if you have been having sucess with your workouts.
I know that you are a big believer in THE PUMP, but I'm a little skeptic about it , altough I tried it in the past and it was helpful to my physique I prefer strenght training. What do you have to say to other authors that consider THE PUMP being a Myth. It is said that the core of Arnold's phsysique was built before he came to America, when he trained with a powerlifting routine.


   
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Big Cat
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I'm personally a skeptic about the actual role of the pump in hypertrophy, believe it or not. But it is a strong tool in guiding your workouts. I've seen routine vary, and success vary with them, and there is a lot of room for inter-individual variability in training as well. But the pump has been a universal guide throughout, in the succes of most of them.

I think you should view it as such as well. I don't think the pump is a prerequisite in growth. I think it can help in some instances, and I definitely believe it is a strong guide in deciding how to run your workout in all instances. And as far as arnold and powerlifting, well, I personally know a lot of powerlifters that use pumps as well.

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Seabiscuit Hogg
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I like training heavy and doing pump a set for the last set. It seems to help wth recovery.

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SBH :)


   
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