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22/08/2019 12:47 pm
prop is just as effective but everytime i have made 200mg/ml it has hurt like a bitch. perhaps EO might help that but i doubt it.
jb
22/08/2019 1:16 pm
yes, i just mentioned them in another post. i am calling htis a limited success since it is now two days on one injectin and one day on another with no redness or swelling or pain from the .5ml 200mg/ml shots. perhaps with stronger concentations made up from EO base you could go to larger shots and stronger concentrations. next batch i will try it.jb
If you have success with this, can you tell me the % of eo and other solvents. Thinking about trying this with TU. The idea of weekly sq injections is very appealing.
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22/08/2019 1:35 pm
prop is just as effective but everytime i have made 200mg/ml it has hurt like a bitch. perhaps EO might help that but i doubt it.jb
I made prop in EO at 200mg/ml no pain at all.
Used 3/20 and the rest EO.
Very interesting thread.
22/08/2019 2:00 pm
i think that i would go with nytols approach although i think that 3% BA is overkill, i would stick to around 2%. 200mg/ml of prop painless is incredible. I get no swelling or pain but a little redness that lasts for a week. Too bad that EO is so damn expensive. TU was always painless for me so should not be a problem.
jb
22/08/2019 2:21 pm
i think that i would go with nytols approach although i think that 3% BA is overkill, i would stick to around 2%. 200mg/ml of prop painless is incredible. I get no swelling or pain but a little redness that lasts for a week. Too bad that EO is so damn expensive. TU was always painless for me so should not be a problem.jb
5% BA is not painful, (I use 5% in my test base in EO, painless), so I add 3% to be extra sure, and also leave it for 7 days after filtering.
I know several very experienced and intellegent guys, who have gotten infections from EO based AAS, that they have made, I have used EO in almost every thing for over a year now and have not had a single bad experience, so I will be sticking with the 3% myself.
22/08/2019 2:51 pm
what you mean is 5% is not painful for you when used with EO, right? In non-EO preps that i am familiar with 5% can sometimes be painfull. I think it is great that eo is that painless. Are you suggesting perhaps that EO is more conducive to bacterial growth? If so, i would definitely use at least 3%. Infections are nothing to fool around with and it is better to be safe than sorry.
jb
22/08/2019 3:08 pm
what you mean is 5% is not painful for you when used with EO, right? In non-EO preps that i am familiar with 5% can sometimes be painfull. I think it is great that eo is that painless. Are you suggesting perhaps that EO is more conducive to bacterial growth? If so, i would definitely use at least 3%. Infections are nothing to fool around with and it is better to be safe than sorry.jb
That is correct, my test base is 5%BA, 25%BB, 15%G, and the rest EO, and it not at all painfull at 100mg/ml.
As far as EO goes, I am not sure, and niether is anyone else who I have discussed it with, but there was a pretty large amount of infections from EO based AAS, that was made by very experienced people who had no issues before.
It could have been bad EO if it all originated at the same source, but it came from different suppliers.
However if it was bacteria in the EO surely the filtering and BA would have taken care of this? Some guys were using .2 filters as well.
As I said, I always use 3% BA, and let the product sit fo r 7 days, and so far, have had no issues, so I shall continue this practise, many of the guys who had problems, have adopted this approach too, and since then have not had a problem either.
I would be interested to hear everyones opinion on this matter though.
22/08/2019 3:27 pm
I have no objections to using ba at 3%. Until you mentioned reports of EO based homebrew having problems i have never heard of any problems at 2%, the science tells us that 1% is more than adequate with a 7 day rest to say nothing of the filtering. My understanding is that oil in general is a very poor mediium for growing bacteria so am surpirsed that EO seems to have some anecdotal tendancy for problems. As i said before, better safe than sorry.
jb
22/08/2019 3:46 pm
JB are you still injecting subcutanously, if so how do you feel? also if a person was holding a large amount of fat would the absorbtion rate change since there is a larger amount of fat for the test to travel? i plan on injecting in my lower stomach area in i carry most of my fat.
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22/08/2019 4:13 pm
i noticed a little residual swelling from anything over 50 mg so i have discontinued. It may very well be individual but 50 at a time is not enough to make it worth my while. i would give it a try with some low dose test.
jb
22/08/2019 4:33 pm
Interesting. I've been injecting SQ for a few months now. Tried Enanthate, EQ,masteron, Deca. Is a little sore at times, though less so than IM, using up to 1.5ml a go. I'll switch back to IM as I get leaner though.
22/08/2019 4:59 pm
where are you injecting?
jb
22/08/2019 5:28 pm
where are you injecting?jb
and at what concentration?
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22/08/2019 5:53 pm
Injecting over the abs. Enanthate 400mg/ml,EQ 400mg/ml, Drost prop 150mg/ml. BA 2-4%. Given how easy the injects are, Im more inclined to go daily, thus lower doses would also be fine for me.
23/08/2019 7:10 am
what are you using for oil?
jb
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