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17/09/2019 12:13 pm
G, didn't you gain an incredible amount of weight on your low-dose cycle? The reason I ask is because if you had, you may want to cut down the test to 500mgs a week or play with the number of days between injects.
I think jb's losing it a little bit when he recommends dropping to 1k cals per day . That's just nuts unless you're already hovering around 1500 and it's not doing much. I don't know how much you two have conversed privately.
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17/09/2019 12:34 pm
r2e, cutting "out" 1,000calories a day is very different from "dropping" to 1,000 calories a day!
jb
Topic starter 17/09/2019 12:59 pm
Sorry guys, will talk to you tomorrow.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
17/09/2019 1:21 pm
r2e, cutting "out" 1,000calories a day is very different from "dropping" to 1,000 calories a day!jb
LOL sorry, jb. My apologies, I read too fast. Guess the old man's got a li'l left in the tank, huh?
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17/09/2019 1:43 pm
jb
Topic starter 17/09/2019 2:03 pm
I've got an opinion on some of these. 750 mgs is enough. I don't use thermogenics anymore. If you don't use thermogenics go with t3, if you do go with t4.
Just wondering why you don't use them anymore. And does T4 really work, some books say it does nothing?
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
Topic starter 17/09/2019 2:22 pm
<<Plenty>>
OK.
<<the tabs are fine, start at 2 tabs and work up to four tabs .5 tabs at a time, eg 2tabs, 3.5 tabs, 3 tabs... 20mg is pretty close to the max and you wnat to work up slowly. take the yhcl 15 min prior to cardio along with the caffeine (start w/200mg). take on empty stomach. As soon as you eat, the effect of the yohimbe will be zeroed out by the insulin. I would NOT take the eph/aspirin until later. you need to start low and slow with this>>
UNTIL LATER WHEN? OR YOU DON'T RECOMMEND THEM AL ALL.
<<armour is a mixture of natural T3/t4 and many report better effect without the peaks and troughs. that would include me>>
IT'S NOT AVAILABLE DOWN HERE . ANY THOUGHTS?
<< cutting in general should not be run during pct, if you are doing a cutting cycle, go for it. you can essentially do this with concern for extnded periods of time>>
SORRY, I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT RUNNING TREN (THE PRECIOUS SECRET) DURING PCT, REMENDER I DON'T DO PCT (I'M SHUT FOREVER). I WAS TALKING ABOUT RUNNING TREN DURING (FOR EXAMPLE) THE LAST 4-6 WEEKS OF THE CYCLE. GOT IT NOW?
<< actually i was talking about the real frank zane. i purchased some tapes from him many years ago and he shared this with me. I can only eat about 2kCalories or i start to gainweight depending on my cardio state but remember, i am much older than most with the infamous slowed metabolic rate.>>
IT'S NOT TO GOING TO BE EASY FOR A GUY LIKE ME TO GO THAT LOW, MAYBE LETHARGY AND HEADACHES ARE GOING TO APPEAR.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
Topic starter 17/09/2019 2:41 pm
G, didn't you gain an incredible amount of weight on your low-dose cycle? The reason I ask is because if you had, you may want to cut down the test to 500mgs a week or play with the number of days between injects.I think jb's losing it a little bit when he recommends dropping to 1k cals per day . That's just nuts unless you're already hovering around 1500 and it's not doing much. I don't know how much you two have conversed privately.
YEAH, I KNOW BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THIS LOW DOSE THING WILL WORK AGAIN. BESIDES THAT, SEEMS THAT SUSTA WORKS BEST WHEN IT'S ADMINISTERED EOD, RIGHT?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WITH PLAYING WITH THE NUMBER OF DAYS BETWEEN SHOTS?
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
17/09/2019 3:01 pm
YEAH, I KNOW BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THIS LOW DOSE THING WILL WORK AGAIN. BESIDES THAT, SEEMS THAT SUSTA WORKS BEST WHEN IT'S ADMINISTERED EOD, RIGHT?
LOL most long acting esters work best when shot EOD. MG for MG as long as they are equal, I doubt you'd ever notice a difference between EOD and 2x per week.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WITH PLAYING WITH THE NUMBER OF DAYS BETWEEN SHOTS?
Here's an example: instead of shooting 250mgs of sust every 3.5 days (monday and thurs, or something of the sort) which totals 500mgs a week, you could shoot every 4 days. That would be 437.5 mgs a week. Every 6 days would be 291.6mgs per week.
"In any contest between power and patience, bet on patience."
~W.B. Prescott
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
~Albert Einstein
Topic starter 17/09/2019 3:31 pm
OK, thanks a lot R2E.
Well, if there's nothing more to say I think I'm ready to go. Any more ideas dudes?
Blood work will be ready on next saturday. Hope to start my new cycle on Sunday.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
17/09/2019 3:49 pm
I like the e4th day idea, work very well for me. If you want to bump the dosage, go with 1.5 ml.
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Topic starter 17/09/2019 4:11 pm
So it would be 700 mg of susta every eight day, huh?
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
17/09/2019 4:40 pm
i reckon shoot one sust e3d, give syou about 625mg pw.
every 2.5 days? if you wanna push the envelope? Altho I think 625mg is pretty good for you.
17/09/2019 4:57 pm
definitely split the shots up.
jb
Topic starter 17/09/2019 5:25 pm
definitely split the shots up.jb
Why is that JB?
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.