Is filtering absolutely necessary??/

Originally posted by ironone1 Yeah but when your filtering 100 grams you need at least 10 or more filters. At $5 a pop it starts to add up. Were talking about the guys who convert larger quantities, not your little 20 grams where you only need 2 filters. My little 20 grams eh? Haha, obviously you don't know me or you'd know i don't convert 20 grams every couple years LMAO 😀 100g of enan cost you about $##### which will make you 400ml of 250mg/ml test. So it costs you about 38-55 bux (with filter) plus the couple bux on oil/ba/vial to make/filter 100ml, or you could pay about the same and get 10ml of UG Gear. I'll pay the $5 a filter anyday, or you could buy 50 in bulk and pay like $2 a filter. 😀

Originally posted by Goanna If you are constantly making large quantities then you should look into alternative filtration methods instead of just syringe filters. I'm gonna convert 50 grams of enan., 20 grams of EQ, and 20 grams of deca for my next cycle. Its enough for a couple of cycles or one long one. I don't convert it that often, to answer your question. I have to get the BB, BA, USP oil, vials, and pins which adds a little to the cost too. I just hate spending $5 a piece for a filter when sometimes it clogs after just 20ml worth. I never had a problem before just baking it. All in all though, powders are the way to go.

Originally posted by Kitchen Chemist My little 20 grams eh? Haha, obviously you don't know me or you'd know i don't convert 20 grams every couple years LMAO 😀 100g of enan cost you about $##### which will make you 400ml of 250mg/ml test. So it costs you about 38-55 bux (with filter) plus the couple bux on oil/ba/vial to make/filter 100ml, or you could pay about the same and get 10ml of UG Gear. I'll pay the $5 a filter anyday, or you could buy 50 in bulk and pay like $2 a filter. 😀 I didn't know they sold them in bulk. Your probably a source,lol. 😀

Originally posted by ironone1 I'm gonna convert 50 grams of enan., 20 grams of EQ, and 20 grams of Deca for my next cycle. Its enough for a couple of cycles or one long one. I don't convert it that often, to answer your question. I have to get the BB, BA, USP oil, vials, and pins which adds a little to the cost too. I just hate spending $5 a piece for a filter when sometimes it clogs after just 20ml worth. I never had a problem before just baking it. All in all though, powders are the way to go. What kind of filters are you using and what are you making? They shouldn't clog after 20ml maybe with tren from pellets. I can make 100 ml no prob with one whatman .45um 25mm filter. Maybe those little ones from VAC ?

I tried the .45um ones from VAC and they clogged on me, even with warm oil. I filtered Cyp., Fina, and Deca last time. I found that they filter easier with a smaller syringe(3cc). The 10 and 20cc ones didn't work as good even with the bigger plunger. I don't know how many plungers I blew out pressing so hard. I remember one of them went ok(the whole 10 grams) of deca I think. It was liquid to start. The others gave me problems, mainly Fina, now that you mentioned it. That machine they have at VAC looks like the way to go. I could never hide it though, lol.

do you mean those little 13mm ones that VAC has? Those take a hour for 10ml.

No, I said the 45's in two of my posts. I wouldn't bitch unless I tried all the alternatives. I'm surprised you can get 100ml out of one. I've never heard of anyone getting that much before. I wonder if using a pre-filter first would make a difference?

you said .45um not 45mm bro.

I thought they only had one 45 whatever size they are on VAC. Their the ones with the yellow ring on them.

the ones with the yellow rings are smaller than 45's.. they have 2 45's one is 13mm and you'll be lucky to get 20 cc's through it.. the other is the standard whatman that come's with most F kits..

That's good to know thanks. I probably got the 13mm one.

sorry bro, that's what i meant, that just .45 um means nothing as it comes in sizes from 13mm all the way to 96mm and up. Those little fukin things that VAC are the biggest pieces of crap, get some 25mm ones and you're life will be a lot easier.

Just to clarify which one will filter the most: It is the Whatman 25mm .45um one's, right?

Anybody ever coffee filter their powders like Fina instead of syr. filtering it?

I dont think the coffee filter idea is a good one.They are designed to remove oil and also the chemicals used to make paper wouldn't be a nice thing to inject.Not to mention what affect the BB and BA would have on them.