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That's a well thought out cycle for your stats. You'll get some good growth, but prepared to be fully addicted to testosterone...

looks good... maybe run the test a week longer then the deca.......

I have nolva, clen, and clomid on hand... for PCT. Would I have better retention of the weight if I went longer (16 wks)? Am I more prone to gyno in my advanced years 🙂 ?? I have a couple extra amps ... can do just that. thanks RB

If you have extra sust , consider bumping up the 2nd four week period.I'd do 30mgs dbol in the first 2 weeks, 50mgs the next two, then the next four dbol combined with cetabon/winny tablets,ten tablets of each a day. I would do clomid in twelfth week and savour every moment of it. If you have some spare change get some viagra or cialis in case of emergency especially a month or so after cycle. Try 2 base your traing on someone like Lee Haney while on cycle. Less training gives you more time to eat and 2 rest. Try drink ten liters of water a day and eat everything you can, You should be able to lower your bf and still go up , up to 40 pounds, thats 270 . Make the best of it and try to stay away from wife when very hungry/moody. She will be against your next cycle so give it all youve got.

Time to place another order for some more vitamins ... If I go another 4 weeks,... still start the clomid in week 12? Seems a little early .. the test will still be repressing the HPTA. Would I continue until after the test is done? 270? I have never been over 250... 🙂 looking forward to this. RB

Start your clomid 3 weeks after last shot of deca. Do a search and in the member name part put heyherc. In his sig he has a link to all the clomid times. I dont know what that other guy is talking about(less training gives more time to eat and rest). That makes no sense. training doesnt take up that much time. It sounds like he is saying I will make better gains the less I train. The deca takes about 3 weeks to clear your system and the sustanon about 2 weeks, so running the sust an extra week is a good idea. So clomid should be 2 weeks after last sust shot and 3 weeks after last deca shot. Keep doses like you have them; their is no need to pyramid. You also dont need to add anything else, it is your first cycle and you will see great results.

Thanks for the input. I had already put Hey herc post (clomid schedule, clearance times) in my favs .. easy access. Do you think that I would have better retention of gains over longer stretch of time... maybe slightly lower amounts of gear? I don't want to screw up the HPTA permanetly. Who knows, after the divorce, I might get lucky again. 🙂 RB

actually pct for both sustenon and deca are the same,3 wks after your last shot. oh and btw welcome aboard!

Welcome to Bolex bro...why wait for New Years? Christmas is always better!

or thanksgiving for that matter lol fuck it start tomorrow

Welcome bro. Thats a great first cycle.

welcome aboard. I personaly like to have a longer cycle and I get better gains on them, but I'm lucky in that I'm not prone to gyno or other shit that goes wrong. I believe retention is controlled by the efficacy of your PCT, not cycle length. good luck!