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MOO!


   
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JGUNS posted a thread a while back on why tren is so effective at fat burning. I doubt it has anything to do with igf-1 as I have taken long r3IGF-1 and had better results recomping with tren.


   
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Not to get off subject, but it seems that HGH has fat burning qualities indepenent of IGF 1.

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Posted by: liftsiron
Not to get off subject, but it seems that hgh has fat burning qualities indepenent of IGF 1.

That's exactly what I was trying to say.


   
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when I ran Tren E with test at 500 mgs per week (600 for the test) I put on musle mass while stripping fat - I got ripped as hell even as I gained weight


   
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USED Tren AT 300 EOD WITH 1G TEST WEEK. NO WEIGHT GAIN, BUT LOOKED TO HAVE LOST ABOUT 3 PERCENT BF. GOT CONSTANT COMPLIAMENTS ABOUT LOOKING BIGGER. ATE EVERYTHING THAT WOULD STAY DOWN. ALSO LOST ABOUT 3LBS OF SWEAT AT NIGHT, ALWAYS RAN VERY HIGH BODY TEMP.


   
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What sort of sides were seen at 400mg/day?

I agree that tren makes you look much leaner. I tried 200mg/day for a week but had to cut back as I was getting very hostile.

100mg/day seems to be a good amount for me.


   
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Posted by: bencher
USED TREN AT 300 EOD WITH 1G TEST WEEK. NO WEIGHT GAIN, BUT LOOKED TO HAVE LOST ABOUT 3 PERCENT BF. GOT CONSTANT COMPLIAMENTS ABOUT LOOKING BIGGER. ATE EVERYTHING THAT WOULD STAY DOWN. ALSO LOST ABOUT 3LBS OF SWEAT AT NIGHT, ALWAYS RAN VERY HIGH BODY TEMP.

Damn, that's 2g's a week and you didn't gain anything ?

Good things come to those who weight.

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NO WEIGHT GAIN ON SCALE. JUST BODY COMPOSITION CHANGED. AND SINCE I WAS LOOKING FOR WEIGHT GAIN I WASNT TOO HAPPY ABOUT IT. AM ON QV OXYVET(75MG ED) AND ENANTHATE 250 @ 1G A WEEK. UP ONLY 4 POUNDS IN 6 WEEKS. PUT STILL FAIRLY LEAN, 12%. ALSO STARTED SLIN LAST MONDAY, ONLY ON DAYS I WORK OUT WHICH IS 3 PER WEEK. NEXT WEEK GOES TO MON-FRIDAY ON SLIN AT 15IU. I HAVE A VERY HIGH TOLERANCE TO DRUGS OF ANY KIND, WHICH HAMPERS MY PROGRESS.


   
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Posted by: Nytol2
What sort of sides were seen at 400mg/day?

This is going off memory from a long time ago, but I remember him saying the mood swings were unbelievable - only rivaled by the pumps he got.

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Posted by: ready2explode
This is going off memory from a long time ago, but I remember him saying the mood swings were unbelievable - only rivaled by the pumps he got.

Wasn't one side unbearable joint pains?


   
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I remember E2 stating using a pretty high dosage in conjunction with high-dose Eq. I believe he stated getting awesome results, but was hampered by joint problems. It was posted at AF. Another guy posted on his friend using 400mg's/d, but he also had joint problems as well.

The highest i've gone is between 75-100mg's/d. I'd have to agree with Tren's fat burning effects. It gives your body a total positive transformation. It also, and I don't know the reason why either, prevents you from adding on fat, at least this was the case in my experience.

I'm able to drop my Kcals lower on Tren (even with t3) without muscle loss. When bulking, if my diet is semi-clean, especially with low GI carb choices, I am still veiny and never seem to get that smooth look.....even with high dose test.

I'm gonna be adding tren into the mix here soon, which will be interesting to see its effects on me since I am proabably at least 15% BF right now and will try to add some size back with minimal fat gain, while also using moderately high test and D-bol.

Due to being lazy and sick these past 2 months, i've developed that Skinny--fat syndrome....

I have the ol' 10-yr reunion coming up in 6-7 weeks, so I have to do something...lol.

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Posted by: Big Cat
Damn, that's 2g's a week and you didn't gain anything ?

I'll parlay that also...doesn't matter what I run,,abombs, Dbol, deca, don't matter,,I won't gain a pd even though I try and eat more whereas in the past I never had a problem putting weght on with less cals.


   
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Posted by: gman67
I'll parlay that also...doesn't matter what I run,,abombs, dbol, deca, don't matter,,I won't gain a pd even though I try and eat more whereas in the past I never had a problem putting weght on with less cals.

The more you weigh, the more you have to eat. If you're not eating enough, you won't gain. If you're eating excess cals, you're guaranteed to gain. Cant say whether it'll be fat or muscle, but you'd def. gain.

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Posted by: ready2explode
The more you weigh, the more you have to eat. If you're not eating enough, you won't gain. If you're eating excess cals, you're guaranteed to gain. Cant say whether it'll be fat or muscle, but you'd def. gain.

Yeah sounds logical doesn't it but nada,,you can throw that eating excess cals out the window on tren,,sorry, at least for me. I've weighed 20pds more than I do now eating less cals.


   
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