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05/07/2019 7:44 pm
It really surprised me to know that delt and quad sites were less prone to pain than the butt site. Also got may attention the cough thing related to systemic issues (pulmonary oil microembolism).
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Mackey MA, Conway AJ, Handelsman DJ. Tolerability of intramuscular injections of testosterone ester in oil vehicle. Hum Reprod. 1995;10(4):862-5.
ABSTRACT
We undertook a prospective survey of the tolerability of deep i.m. injections of Testosterone Enanthate in a castor oil vehicle, the most widely used form of androgen replacement therapy. Over a period of 8 months, 26 men received 551 weekly injections into the gluteal, deltoid or thigh muscle and side-effects were recorded immediately and 1 week after each injection by the same nurse using a standardized questionnaire. Most injections caused no complaints [389/551, 70.6% (95% confidence interval 66.6-74.4%)] but minor local side-effects, mostly pain and bleeding, were common [162/551, 29.4% (25.6-33.4%)]; no serious side-effects were observed. Considering all side-effects, the gluteal site had fewer complaints and was less prone to bleeding but was painful more often than deltoid or thigh injection sites. The laterality of injection at any site had no significant effect on side-effects. The only systemic side-effect was episodes of sudden-onset, non-productive cough associated with faintness following eight injections [1.5% (0.6-2.9%)] which we speculate may have been due to pulmonary oil microembolism. We conclude that, when administered by an experienced nurse, deep i.m. injection of testosterone enanthate in a castor oil vehicle is generally safe and well tolerated but causes relatively frequent minor side-effects, including pain and bleeding. An improved depot form of testosterone would be highly desirable for androgen replacement therapy and hormonal male contraception.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
05/07/2019 8:07 pm
Hmm... makes me wonder about the fina cough people used to report. It definately happened but tren was in acetate only at the time and a micro-embolkism might have just been the thing. wierd.
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To quote Oscar Wilde, "They say we destroy the things we love, but really the things we love destroy us."
It's strange, how laughter looks like crying, with no sound and rain drops taste like tears, without the pain.
05/07/2019 8:31 pm
I have had a cough quite a few times with test e and cyp shots.
I find it interesting that quads were deemed less painful, quad shots kill me, so I dont do them, no problem with glutes or delts at all.
05/07/2019 8:56 pm
the microembolism theory is one that is widely accepted by me as welll as others but it does seem strange that it occurs more frequently with tren than others.
jb
05/07/2019 9:25 pm
bleeding............
facts of BB'ers
yeah bloodybuilders ...........lol............
dr frankenstein
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05/07/2019 9:48 pm
bleeding............facts of BB'ers
yeah bloodybuilders ...........lol............
Did not get that .
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
05/07/2019 10:16 pm
you are not alone!
jb