Esterfied Anavar

i would think that in a weak oral like Anavar, the liver IGF production is too important to the gains you see.

getting it in an injectable would mean 1 less pass from the liver, and less IGF production.

i'd love to see some injectable halo though....

No, thats not the reason. There is a specific reason why... At least I thought there was

is liver induced IGF-1 linked to muscle growth? i did not think so.. could be wrong.

Posted by: rusher

is liver induced IGF-1 linked to muscle growth? i did not think so.. could be wrong.

then again, when you are using GH + slin, all the igf you get is liver induced. and you grow dont you?

Why esterify an 17aa steroid ? To control its time release ? If you want to make it injectable,go right ahead ,mix it with a sterile solution of oil or water and shoot it like winstrol.
If you mean to remove its 17aa and then esterify it then you might end up with a substance with entirely different effects altogether,like the difference between Dianabol and eq.
If by making an injectable out of it is for liver protection purposes then i suggest that in case of liver problems you're better off to stay away of 17aa altogether either injectable or oral and/or go on a serious liver protective therapeutic scheme during,before and after use.

Posted by: gtrack

Why esterify an 17aa steroid ? To control its time release ? If you want to make it injectable,go right ahead ,mix it with a sterile solution of oil or water and shoot it like winstrol.
If you mean to remove its 17aa and then esterify it then you might end up with a substance with entirely different effects altogether,like the difference between dianabol and eq.
If by making an injectable out of it is for liver protection purposes then i suggest that in case of liver problems you're better off to stay away of 17aa altogether either injectable or oral and/or go on a serious liver protective therapeutic scheme during,before and after use.

I just thought that it would be cool to have like anavar enanthate. That would seem to be really kick ass IMO. Are you serious about shooting it??? Can someone back this. Just add bacterialstatic water and inject.

Posted by: neworleansgt

I just thought that it would be cool to have like anavar enanthate. That would seem to be really kick ass IMO. Are you serious about shooting it??? Can someone back this. Just add bacterialstatic water and inject.

and it will hurt as much as winny/test suspension

Reforvit didn't hurt but it worked better orally. Don't know why you'd inject when you don't have to. I do wonder how soluble var is now tho.

Well, I figure if you inject it you get more bang for your buck because the var bypasses the liver by going straight into the blood then it hits the liver and so on. Basically you get an extra pass through the system. However this little thought process might be all jacked up as seeing as passing through the liver might be a major contributing factor of anavar

Well most ppl who have tried them both ways will say Dbol is better orally and winny is better injected. I only know the dbol part is true. Var may work better or not.

Posted by: nEEd4wEEd

yea ive seen some studies to that point also.

then again, when you are using GH + slin, all the igf you get is liver induced. and you grow dont you?

perhaps growth from HGH comes via another pathway? my personal experience with hGH only is terrible, some fatloss.. nothing gained.

Posted by: rusher

jeah sure, but surely i would too from a slin only cycle.

perhaps growth from hGH comes via another pathway? my personal experience with hGH only is terrible, some fatloss.. nothing gained.

imo the correct way is to use 6 or more IUs of GH with slin morning and PWO. ive never heard of this protocol failing to provide growth.

there is no advantage to injecting any oral AAS. It neither decreases liver toxicity nor does it improve the effectiveness of the compound (the second part being from my person experience with dbol and winny).

So winny works as well or better orally?