Notifications
Clear all
Topic starter
13/11/2019 11:34 am
Ok, so i have a bit of a perverted motivation here, but i'm hoping you steroid genius' can help give me some insight. If i should have posted this in Anything Goes, please forgive me.
I'm a 28 year old female-to-male transguy. I've been on delestryl Testosterone Enanthate intramuscular injections for 3 months now. I started at 25ml a week and have gradually been building up to where I am now, 40ml a week. Soon I'll go to 50ml. I'm doing this under a doctor's supervision who is qualified in this area.
I've always been a healthy and active person. My workouts are definitely going to the next level now and that is exciting.
Unlike most of the concern on here about andro effects, I wholeheartedly embrace the masculinizing effects! However, i'm not writing to figure out how i can get buffer, faster--that is going just fine for me so far. I want to find out what you know about how i can get my clit to grow the most.
The research I've done so far tells me that the clit grows the most in the first year of T use. Anything after that is pretty small. In reading about 2 diff. guy's experience getting phalloplasy surgery (where a full sized penis is created through plastic surgery), I've noticed that in both cases the plastic surgeons told the guys to use andractim cream on their "dicks" to maximize growth before the surgery.
I've read a little about Andractim and there seems to be a lot of differing opinions on it's effectiveness which makes me think that there are better options. However, what my doctor can't tell me is if using a topical cream just on my unit would give me messed up effects in other areas of my body? Or would it increase my T levels significantly?
I've tried getting in touch with the plastic surgeons, but it's very hard getting a response out of them and if i do, it's only a couple words and no concrete information. Transguys are basically still guinea pigs at this point in science.
I want to maximize the growth i can get this year while not being reckless with my health. I'm not sure what size i was before T, but i was for sure on the larger end of the normal size spectrum. Now i'm just shy of 2 inches. It grew a lot in the first month and now the growth is very gradual.
I hope to treated fairly and with respect here. I don't mind answering honest, well-thought out questions...hopefully they'll be on topic.
thanks.
21/11/2019 11:59 am
I hope you mean 25mg, not 25mL. If you're doing 25mL that may explain why.
Topic starter
21/11/2019 12:19 pm
"that may explain why"...pertaining to what?
To be honest, i don't fucking know whether it's mg or ml. My prescription says: Delatestryl 200/MG/ML so that's why i don't know. I do know that i go up to the 4th line on my syringe which represents my dose of 40. But, there are all diff. sizes of syringes, so that may not help.
My instructions on the box say: Inject 0.5ML once a week. Then, the box says that a usual dose for males or females is 100-400mg every 4 weeks. Confusing!
Either way, know of any regional topical stuff I can use to get this guy going!
21/11/2019 12:42 pm
ML is volume, while MG is the actual amount of drug in said solution. This is a common confusion, which GS was simply trying to point out. Stay relaxed, there was no harm meant in it.
Clit growth is an androgenic side effect. Increasing your androgen (test), should increase growth. Nevertheless, there is going to be a point where growth slows, and then ceases at any dose of androgens ingested. Where that point is, I couldn't tell you exactly.
If I were in your position, I'd certainly be using 100mgs a week. This is the most common male HRT dose and has been shown to be healthy, and even beneficial to some (at least in those who were born men, I'm not sure about transsexuals). Furthermore, androgenic sides would be be more pronounced, which increases the likelihood that your clit will grow. I don't understand why your doc would want to keep you so low.
"In any contest between power and patience, bet on patience."
~W.B. Prescott
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
~Albert Einstein
Topic starter
21/11/2019 1:11 pm
Hey, i was just curious what he meant, but i'm definitely calm about it! haha.
thanks for writing and clearing up the ML/MG thing. The docs just start you low in hopes of keeping the transition smooth. Too much too fast may freak people out I guess and plus the mood swings could be bad. Also I've read and been told that there's a delicate balance for each person as to what too much T is for them. You have to figure out that balance and not go over it b/c if you do, then the extra T turns into estrogen and you're working against yourself.
Another trans guy i know is taking 100mgs a week but also has to take an estrogen blocker of some sort. Anyway, my dose will keep rising. My doc just took blood to test my levels the other day and in a couple of weeks i'll see where i'm at with that.
So does anyone know anything about Andractim?
Thanks.
21/11/2019 1:29 pm
why not add an anti-estrogen such as arimidex? you will aavoid the extra estrogen and increase the effective dose of test.
jb
Topic starter
21/11/2019 1:47 pm
interesting...i'll look up arimidex. Thanks.
Topic starter
21/11/2019 2:17 pm
whoa, the Arimidex side effects sound pretty brutal. http://www.arimidex.com/arimidex/ar...ide_effects.asp
I looked up tamoxifen too and it has the likliness to fuck with my sex drive and some other nasty stuff: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/...erapy/tamoxifen
I'm really not into digesting any more meds. The T is enough for me. I like to be as pure as possible. Once I have a hysto then my body will have much less estrogen to fight against the T with. The T pretty easily trumps the estrogen anyway. FTMs have it way easier than MTFs in that way.
Really, i was just hoping someone may know something concrete about Andractim and/or any other regional, topical stuff i could use. Maybe i should post on a Penis Enlargement forum or something.
21/11/2019 2:43 pm
what i was suggesting was a smalll dose of arimidex, say a 1/4 tablet a day, i would doubt you would see anything significant at that dose. however, if the T is doing it for you, all the best.
the problem here is not the situation you describe is not all that common for most here and we are conjecturing. As such this might not be the most appropriate site for your purposes although we re glad to help in wahtever way we can.
Are you going to start working out?
jb
Topic starter
21/11/2019 3:03 pm
Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying/where you're coming from. Even in FTM groups, it's all conjecturing...
I have been working out pre T and now. When working out pre T, I was having trouble passing a certain threshold. I've quickly passed that threshold now so that's exciting. I lost my damn measuring tape and keep forgetting to get a new one, so i don't know my exact gain, but it's significant these past 3 months.
I work at home and I've been doing everything with free weights here.