by what age do you think you will stop taking steroids .

Who's stopping? BBZ

Nobody likes a quitter.

I was thinking about this the other day... Started at 25, currently 28. Figure I'm done within 24 months. Don't need to get much bigger, other priorities are becoming more important in my life, and frankly I'm sick of sticking myself a couple hundred times per year.

Originally posted by silencer I was thinking about this the other day... Started at 25, currently 28. Figure I'm done within 24 months. Don't need to get much bigger, other priorities are becoming more important in my life, and frankly I'm sick of sticking myself a couple hundred times per year. There's always orals 🙂 BBZ

i've been clean for 2 years and it definitely shows. once i get back in shape i will get back on and i don't plan on ever coming off.

I asked a 42 year old friend this question and he said,"If there aren't pin holes in the corpse, it ain't my corpse." Thought it was pretty funny. Personally, I'd like to gain 20 more lbs of beef and do whatever it takes to maintain. Of course I've been saying 20 more lbs for like 10 years now =P

Yep once u hit 20 more pounds, it'll be another 20 and so on and so on. It's a fucking disease!!

I picture myself in the retirement home in my room still shooting up!

Originally posted by lightweight STOP?! WTF?!:nono: You beat me to it!!!:biglaugh:

When they pry the Terumo out of my cold dead fingers.

djsupremecugine, Ever see any pics of Mike Christian or Tom Platz lately?? From the pics Mike Christian can't be more than 180ish, although its def. hard to tell in pics. And this from someone who during his time was one of the best in the world. Personally I would not like to shrink back to 155ish. I started at 140 @ 5'9" I've been as high as a pigged/bulked 235 (not pretty with my frame, I'm fairly small boned) and now cruise about 205. Just my opinion. Some of you I'm sure started at 200ish. I have no desire to be a pencil dick again. LOL bs 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

Well guys I am now 33 and have been cycling pretty hard for the last 5 years. Started out at a weight of 180 and today I am about 255-260# I really didn't have any problems until about a year ago. Now I have high blood pressure that won't go down, preblems with my prostate, have lost most of my hair..(it shaved now!) I just got off my last heavy cycle about 4 weeks ago. It was 800mg Enan, 50mg fina eod, 600mg EQ, 40mg Dbol/day. From here on out it will be 500mg Test, 400mg Primo, and 50/day of Winny. I'm happy with the size that I have now just want to continue to fill out at this weight. Continue to lower bodyfat levels and build more muscle. My Dr. told me that the damages from juicing after the age of 30 are alot of times are irreversible. The things that I am worried about is an enlarged heart and the high blood pressure. I am going to clean out for next 5-6 months, I have been on and off for the last 6 months and right now am only taking 400mg Test, 100mg clomid, .5mg eod arimedex. I will slowly lower the test over a period of a month and then go completley off everything. Big Jim

Thats what happens when you use cocaine etc. No place in bodybuilding for that. Look at Arnold in his 50's..awesome. Hell even Coleman is 39. Robby Robinson won the Master Olympia 60 + old division in awesome condition. Juicing til you are 100 is ok, just got to be smarter as you get older. Cut the orals, reg checkups, winny only if competing, good aerobic activity year round and a good clean diet. Your liver and kidneys can sustain a lot of abuse but your heart can't. First signs of heart concerns and it is time to go clean for life. That doesn't mean going small though. Too many think that you can't gain without gear, you can, just slower.

I don't ever want to stop juicing, but staying HUGE after a certain age doesn't seem right either. The plan is to deflate from around 240 pounds@8%bf and 5'9 at 50 years, leaving 1 pound behind every year until I'm 100 and 190 pounds. Or something in that neighbourhood.

Originally posted by gearuzr My Dr. told me that the damages from juicing after the age of 30 are alot of times are irreversible. I didn't hear this exact statement but i knew a doc who treated a lot of guys in getting their natural test levels back to normal with HCG and clomid when they were done juicing. Pretty much everyone was fine except for some guys in their late 30's and beyond who's levels went up but did not stay up and had to be on HRT the rest of their life.