What are the symptoms of developing gyno??? I am currently on 600mb prop/week and dont feel anything around my breasts. Is it possible to develop gyno in ˇˇsilenceˇˇ ??
no swelling or sensitivity?
jb
I'm a big believer in taking 20mg of novaldex ed, just incase...
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for now nothing.. I am now 1 week in and even libido hasn't kicked in yet...
As long as you have nolva on hand there's nothing to worry about.
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for now nothing.. I am now 1 week in and even libido hasn't kicked in yet...
Be patient wait some more time, you'll see how powerfull test is regarding sex drive, get your girl prepared, get videos, mags etc. you'll need them.
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What are the symptoms of developing gyno??? I am currently on 600mb prop/week and dont feel anything around my breasts. Is it possible to develop gyno in ˇˇsilenceˇˇ ??
most cirtenly!
i have pre existing gyno and test flares it up, first cycle i did i had none of the symptoms (itcy niples etc) but i difinetly got some tissue going on in there.
from then on 10mg nolva and 50mg proviron suffice for me.
and fucking yes, proviron does work against estrogen, it happened to not have proviron for some days and my nipples got tender.
"tiss a visitor i muttered
knokcing on my chamber door
only this and nothing more"
and fucking yes, proviron does work against estrogen, it happened to not have proviron for some days and my nipples got tender.
Glad to hear that, thanks for the info bro.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
and those days you were taking Nolvadex? nolvadex is clinically proven to be effective when used for gyno. THere is not a shred of clinical evidence that proviron does anything wrt estrogen. If it works for you, that is fine but please do not count on it working for others.
jb
No, I was not taking nolva.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
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Glad to hear that, thanks for the info bro.
lol ok, no the reason i was kind of agressive was bacause it came to me as a revelation, i was reading all those posts i think from llewellyn or who was it, that proviron does shit about estrogen etc, and when i experienced it, it was quite different, which brings me to this point:
theory and studies are absolutely excelent, but actuall experience with the drugs is needed in order to gain a complete understanding and catholic perspective.
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. THere is not a shred of clinical evidence that proviron does anything wrt estrogen. If it works for you, that is fine but please do not count on it working for others.
thats true, but where there is smoke there is fire, it happens all the time, ATP for excample, everyone said that injectable ATP does shit, and just the warm up would consume it.
But all the great coaches used it. Some years later it is sown that ATP decreases electrical resistance in motor end plates...
hell there are probably even studies that *prove* that AAS use has no corelation with strength and muscle gains.
anyway, proviron 50mg and nolva 10mg worked like a charm for me. Proviron alone not so much, nolva 10mg adequately but both of them prety damn good.
"tiss a visitor i muttered
knokcing on my chamber door
only this and nothing more"
i have no objection to anyone using it or espousing it so long as it is clearly stated that it is anecdotal. My issue i sthat in the world of pharmcology, reactions to drugs can be highly individualized. In the case of nolvadex, we know that in "most" people it is effective in treating gyno or preventing it. There is no such evidence for proviron so while it might work well for you when taking it with nolvadex it very well might not work for someone else. I would encourage our members to try it out as long as they have sufficicent amounts of nolvadex on hand in case it does not work for them.
Many folks try to tell others that proviron by itself is effective enough to eliminate nolvadex altogether, that is the big problem. It would appear from your personal experience that proviron may be synergistic with nolvadex wrt gyno, a totally different claim.
jb
true i stand corrected
"tiss a visitor i muttered
knokcing on my chamber door
only this and nothing more"
I have been on 350mg Sustaxyl & 150mg Tri Tren EOD for about 6 weeks.
I have been taking 0.5mg of Arimidex thoughout and i have to say this is the best cycle ever. I feel great, sex drive is out of control and im leaning out nicely.
However, i have just started to get sore nipples.
Should i up the adex or take nolva in addition. Got about 2 weeks left.
could be prolactin gyno try Cabaser i think at 0.5mg e4d maybe start a bit higher coz you already feel symptoms
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