Deca and EQ in the same cycle?

Originally posted by 66LIFTER99 I would lose the gatorade unless it was part of my post workout drink. Gatorade has only 50 calories (12 1/2 gr carbs) per 8 fluid oz serving.

they should have sugar free gatorade...

my bulker is gonna be a Enth/eq/deca/methyl 1-test, ill letcha guys know how it goes...

Originally posted by BigWill Money wasnt a problem and for pure strength the 2 together are great. I found they worked awesome together for pure mass, but wasnt impressed with them as far as strength goes..but hey, if it worked well for you in that area even better!

Originally posted by anointed not a good idea to run the 2 together.. not b/c of the old misconception of the same receptor site bullshit, but b/c deca is gonna make u put on some water and fill u out where eq is more lean mass.. if u want size without the water just use the test/deca/dbol with some arimidex or if u want more lean mass use the test/eq cycle save urself some $$$ and yes i have used them together, nothing great Your thinking about this the wrong way bro. 1) A bulker or a cutter is determined more by your diet than the gear you use. Yes Deca may bloat you some but bloat is temporary and anabolic. 2) Maybe EQs gains are leaner, but who ever said EQ wasnt good for bulking. The extra hunger you get can certainly make a differance in a bulker. 3) In terms of a pure mass cycle, what steroids would you choose? Test...Deca...Dbol or Drol...what else? Fina and Primo wont add much weight to you, neither will winny. SO whats the next best steroid for mass? EQ. Plus, as Ive explained before...EQ being more androgenic and stimulating muscle growth through AR means is a perfect compliment to the mostly anabolic Deca. Basically, one compound hits mass building in ways the other doesnt. You have an all inclusive stack here. 4) Maybe the combo didnt work right for you, but it did wonders for me, and if the rest of the thread is any indication...its worked extremely well for others too.

Originally posted by ironman_845 Throw in some fina and you're really cooking.. in a few weeks I'm going to try it out with some drol.. 🙂 I think fina would complete this stack. As Ive said before, I LOVED Test/Deca/EQ + Dbol for pure mass, but didnt get much in the way of strength (except for the first few weeks when I was on Dbol). Test/Deca/Fina + Dbol was just constant strength gains through out the cycle, put on decent mass too! So Test/Deca/EQ/Fina + Dbol or Drol would complete the stack and will maximize both strength and mass. Obviously not a newbie stack.

Originally posted by hitmeoff Finally you monkies have seen the light!!! It about time you guys listened to me and started running Deca and EQ! No better bulker than Test/Deca/EQ...for pure mass Test/Deca/EQ + some Dbol to get thing going is the shizzle fo' hizzle ma nizzle You're right, i listened..... 😀

Originally posted by ironone1 My diet wasn't that great. I ate alot of fast food cheeseburgers. I just stick with the basics, low carbs high protein. I eat alot of eggs, chicken, and hamburger. I get my veggies from alot of salads, and stay away from the sugary ones like corn and carrots. I limit the sweets and ice cream and eat mainly complex carbs like potatoes and rice. For breakfast its eggs, oatmeal or cerial, always with skim milk. I drink alot of milk, protein shakes, water and gatorade. I limit juice cause of the sugar. That's about it, nothing special. My favorite meal is my wife's homemade sauce with meatballs, pork and sausage. Fattening, but I gorge myself on it though, lol. 😀 Damn you to hell, your making me wanna bulk!

Originally posted by hitmeoff I think fina would complete this stack. As Ive said before, I LOVED Test/Deca/EQ + Dbol for pure mass, but didnt get much in the way of strength (except for the first few weeks when I was on Dbol). Test/Deca/Fina + Dbol was just constant strength gains through out the cycle, put on decent mass too! So Test/Deca/EQ/Fina + Dbol or Drol would complete the stack and will maximize both strength and mass. Obviously not a newbie stack. I was on fina my last cycle and didn't see a big increase in strength. Like you said, the first four weeks I saw the most with the d-bols, but then it went down afterwards. I think you need to run it with prop. to get the maximum benefit from tren. These kits are underdosed besides. Your not getting 100mg/ml like they say. I would go with the tren. enanthate powder next time. Alot better than pellets I hear. Generally, it is not good practice to run both fina and deca in the same cycle because of progesterone gyno. I'm not an advocate of going against the grain on things. Some people it doesn't bother I guess. I wouldn't do it without some bromo. on hand.

Originally posted by ironone1 Generally, it is not good practice to run both fina and deca in the same cycle because of progesterone gyno. I'm not an advocate of going against the grain on things. Some people it doesn't bother I guess. I wouldn't do it without some bromo. on hand. Actually this is incorrect. Fina gyno is caused by prolactin, not Deca. If there was ever 2 drugs that shouldnt be run together because of progesterone induced gyno, its Deca and Drol (drol may act like a progestin by activating the PR). But Fina gyno is NOT caused by progesterone, its prolactin. This can be prevented with the use of Bromo, and Ive also heard theres a new drug that can be used thats easier to take than Bromo is, but I cant remember what that is.

Originally posted by hitmeoff Actually this is incorrect. Fina gyno is caused by prolactin, not Deca. If there was ever 2 drugs that shouldnt be run together because of progesterone induced gyno, its Deca and Drol (drol may act like a progestin by activating the PR). But Fina gyno is NOT caused by progesterone, its prolactin. This can be prevented with the use of Bromo, and Ive also heard theres a new drug that can be used thats easier to take than Bromo is, but I cant remember what that is. Well I've seen it a number of times that Deca and Fina should not be run together for gyno. problems. I know the sides are bad with Bromo., I don't know anything about this new drug. Fina should only be run for 6 weeks, wheras EQ you can run for months with no problems. I've stayed on Fina for a long time but won't do it again after hearing the damage that it can do to your lungs. I might try the tren. enan. for about 6 weeks at the end maybe to harden up. 😀