Thanks for the info guys... bump for anyone else

I've heard good things about the vet kyno. I will probably give it a go off cycle.

HCG without Teslac can increase the body's catabolic state post-steroids because HCG increases testosterone levels. Your right, it doesn't make sense....

I don't really understand how either... check this out TESLAC Competitive anti-aromatase inhibitors, such as Teslac, possibly bind to the same binding...

Yes... but theoretically if you could lower your levels enough then you wouldn't have to worry about taking anti-e's, it would be like you were on the...