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madfish
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1-6 : sustanon at 825mg/week
1-6 : eq at 400mg/week
1-6 : primobolan 350mg/week
7-12 : Test. prop. 700mg/week
7-12 : Tren Acetat 100mg/EOD
7-12 : Winstrol tabs 50mg/ED

Now... I am a little bit worried about estrogen side effects in the first 6 weeks due to sustanon aromatization. What do you think I should include proviron or Nolvadex???? Fat burning and hardening is the main goal..

thank you..


   
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Zircon
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confusing to me...

the eq and primo too low to do much

sust is ok i guess

2nd half of czcle is harsh...whats ur pct

im sure u will get decent results tho...just think eq and primo bit of a waste


   
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madfish
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Well... how much should I go with EQ and Primobolan?

600mg of EQ??

for PCT I will run nolvadex at 40mg/3 weeks.. 20mg/2 weeks.... that works well for me... Also I will add some HCG during the second half of the cycle... at 300iu EOD...

but.... As you know.... what should I use.. proviron or nolvadex, since cutting and hardening is my main goal?


   
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jboldman
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i do not like orals so would eliminate the winny. this is an experienced user cycle! Primo is a waste and eq never did anything for me but would up it to 600mg/week if you want to use it.

jb


   
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madfish
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what is good to stack with EQ, except anavar dbol and primobolan? Is masteron ok?

or i go with just sustanon 800mg/week + eq 600mg/week.. and the other half leave just like that..

i know about orals...... maybe i switch with winny inject or enhance tren on 75mg/ED...


   
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Trevdog
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I would just go sustenon + eq, and skip the primo this time.

Winny inject is about the same as oral winny, either is hard on the liver. I would prefer the higher tren dose.

Proviron cannot be relied on to deal with estrogen. nolvadex can.


   
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madfish
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anyway.. why wouldn't be ok to use 400mg eq and 350mg primobolan??? This is all together 1575mg/week ... and that's a not a little... i know guys who are on that much and are HUGE..


   
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Trevdog
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You also have to keep in mind that eq and primo are maybe about 1/4 to 1/3 as potent as testosterone on a mg. per mg. basis.

The doses of both primo and eq are quite low, and there is no real reason to believe that stacking them will add anything to the sum of the parts.

Moreover, it isn't just a matter of counting up your total mgs. and becoming "HUGE".


   
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mystery_meat
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Here is what I would sugest based on what you are planning..

I asume your EQ is 200mg/ml, and your sust is 250mg/ml. That makes it perfect for:

THe following would be a 2cc shot three times per week, given the asumptions above:
Weeks 1-6: Sust @ 750mg per week
Weeks 1-6: EQ @ 600mg per week

Weeks 7-12: Tren Acetate @ 100mg ED
Weeks 7-12: Test Prop @ 100mg ED

That should do you good..


   
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madfish
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ok man i gonna do this tnx )

btw... What do u suggest for estrogen related problems??? Is there any need for nolvadex or any other drugs??? or what do u suggest..


   
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mystery_meat
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I would run Arimidex (I know some people rather use femara; but I stick to this one), specially during the first 6 weeks... I would run it at .5mg ED (or 1mg EOD)...

Clomid and nolva for PCT on hand of course...


   
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madfish
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what about nolvadex throughout the cycle and no arimidex?


   
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