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guijr
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Posted by: jboldman
Tren Enanthate keeps my tren temper in check better. either one is fine by me.

i think it is a pretty common side effect of tren to magnify emotions, particularly agressive ones. for me, i tend to take things the wrong way, am irritable, get in discussions that just seem to go south no matter how hard i try to salvage them and be reasonable. When i first started doing tren i just thought i was right and everyone wa wrong. after a while i figured it out and tried to back off quicker and control it. nowadays a lower dose and self-awareness pretty much covers it and when people start complaining of my crappy attitude i know it is time to titrate down some!

jb

Thanks for the info JB, and I think this kind of information is very important since it seems that Tren may produce, at a certain dosage, some powerful phenomenons at cerebral level. A kind of substance that may be characterized as "handle with care".

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I think for a first cycle 500mgs of test would be the best choice. Save the Tren And winny for the future.

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Posted by: jboldman
i love the way my body reacts to 100mg/day of acetate but i become way to much of a bear and have to back off to save my marriage and other relationships.

jb

100% agree!


   
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Sounds like i would have to really keep my self in check. I am an agressive person to start with. About the comment from R2E, "I think for a first cycle 500mgs of test would be the best choice. Save the tren and winny for the future," if i was going to try to get my BF% way down, would this still work....test only?

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I am aggressive by nature too, and I have only used tren a couple of times due to its effect on my moods, so you really do need to be aware of it. It is not fair on those around you otherwise.

Bodyfat is more related to diet and training, than type of AAS, I too would recomend 500mg of long acting test for a 1st cycle.

Eat well, and the extra muscle gained will drop your BF % quite a lot if you do it right. Some people look smooth on test due to water, but get some Arimidex if you are sensitive, but at 500mg per week, I doubt you will have many problems.


   
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If you're just looking at bf reduction you need to get your diet/cardio in check first. If you're worried about losing muscle just use a low dose test cycle to preserve it while you're dieting.


   
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sounds like concensus here, low dose test, diet and cardio.

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Posted by: HugeDeep
Sounds like i would have to really keep my self in check. I am an agressive person to start with. About the comment from R2E, "I think for a first cycle 500mgs of test would be the best choice. Save the tren and winny for the future," if i was going to try to get my BF% way down, would this still work....test only?

Test works great for preserving muscle mass. IMO, the two best drugs to cut on are test and/or tren. The reason I recommend test is because in the future it's going to be the building block of almost, if not all, of your cycles. Get a feel of how your body is going to react to it.

The only negative is that you might carry some bloat. IMO, it's not a negative. When the cycle is over, your cuts will come out even more and you'll be one happy mofo. But who knows, you might not even bloat...just another reason why ya should see how your body is going to react.

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so like Test Prop or susp? Not sure of a good "low dose" test!

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does anyone know any supplements that can be used to counter act the side effects that winny and tren have on you tendons, i haqve herd that using thoses types of gear can make them more prone to tears

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Posted by: silverknight
does anyone know any supplements that can be used to counter act the side effects that winny and tren have on you tendons, i haqve herd that using thoses types of gear can make them more prone to tears

I never had any tears while using both tren and winny...but I'd like to understand the affects that adequan has on joints and muscles when using AAS.

I really wonder if adequan will counteract the negatives that winny has for joints.

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adequan is pretty hard to get and expensive. i know of nothing that counteracts winny. i am unaware of any negative effects specifically related to tren use.

jb


   
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jb, what do you recommend for joint issues? I have a nagging knee injury and am doing a bit of running.

Also, I'm battling some issues with my L1 through S1 that I have been having epidural cortisone injections with...that has helped alleviate a lot of the inflamation issues.

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Posted by: HugeDeep
so like test prop or susp? Not sure of a good "low dose" test!

I would go with test enanthate myself, that way you only nee 2ml once per week, (assuming 250mg/ml).

I would stay away from suspension, and many props are over painful, plus no need to make more holes in your self than needed!


   
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Posted by: Nytol2
I would go with test enanthate myself, that way you only nee 2ml once per week, (assuming 250mg/ml).

I would stay away from suspension, and many props are over painful, plus no need to make more holes in your self than needed!

Indeed!

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