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betterbikerides
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Would running say 200mg/week of deca ease any joint pain sides commonly associated with winstrol?

12 week cycle, I'm 85KG

4 weeks @ 200test 200deca
6 weeks @ 200test 200deca 40mgWinstrol
2 weeks @200test

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supplychain
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so you're runing deca the first 10 weeks and stan week 5-10?


   
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you realize stan makes you wekaer in all ares associated w/ connective tissue.
Not only does it dry out your joints it also dries out your ligaments and such making you more prone to injury during extreme periods of exertition(weight training, sprints, ect.)


   
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fuck winny...i fucking hate that compound

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What would you guys sub in for it in the proposed cycle above, yes I was only going to run the Stan for 6 weeks 5-10 but I can't risk injury that late in the season.


   
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supplychain
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Anavar or t-bol won't cause water retention and is less liver toxic then stan,
But to answer your question, yes.
I sometimes have guys on deca becasue they can't squat 500 and bench 400 w/ out extreme joint pain.
Deca deff help out w/ the drying out of your joints


   
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Posted by: supplychain
anavar or t-bol won't cause water retention and is less liver toxic then stan,
But to answer your question, yes.
I sometimes have guys on deca becasue they can't squat 500 and bench 400 w/ out extreme joint pain.
Deca deff help out w/ the drying out of your joints

Without a doubt, an 8 week cycle of deca helped clear up a joint/tendon injury that I had. Gave me lots of back-acne, but definitly helped clear up the injury. Couldnt tell you if it counteracts winny....but I can tell you that for me winny sucks, made me have more aches and pains then I normally have.


   
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i would say sub var for the winny..even though i would say go low with the var...cause the pumps are insane...and i would say go NPP instead of the deca...cause deca has a really long detection time and with NPP you can really avoid the bloat...go prop and NPP in the same syringe eod...thats my humble opinion

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Posted by: pista
Without a doubt, an 8 week cycle of deca helped clear up a joint/tendon injury that I had. Gave me lots of back-acne, but definitly helped clear up the injury. Couldnt tell you if it counteracts winny....but I can tell you that for me winny sucks, made me have more aches and pains then I normally have.

what was your dose of deca?


   
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Posted by: rawdog
what was your dose of deca?

200 mg of Deca with 250mg of test e.


   
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betterbikerides
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What about subbing in 25mgs / week of D-bol for the Stan?


   
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Posted by: betterbikerides
What about subbing in 25mgs / week of D-Bol for the Stan?

it'll raise your BP and is more liver toxic then stan
It's also typically used as a kick start.
I personally have no experience taking Dbol


   
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Maybe for 4 to 6 weeks at the beginning of the cycle, I absolutely can't risk the stan if it is going to dry out the connective tissues. I get injured if I look at myself wrong in the mirror.


   
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Posted by: betterbikerides
Maybe for 4 to 6 weeks at the beginning of the cycle, I absolutely can't risk the stan if it is going to dry out the connective tissues. I get injured if I look at myself wrong in the mirror.

gotta go with var then...but that shit hurts cardio in my experience....m/track dont like it either...how bout halo?

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alot of people in here are throwing around the idea of halo and i've suggested it myself
Has anyone here taken it?
The shits no joke and should be treated so.
It has an anabolic/androgenic ratio of 1900/850, compared to tests 100/100
Be carefull w/ it and start off slow.
Halo is deff not for the first or 2nd or 3rd time user.
There is only ONE anabolic steroid more anabolic than halo.
HAlo is the king ding aling when it comes to steroids, and sides
I only know of one powder source where i get mine from and it's pricey as far as powders go(35x more expensive then test)
it's hard to find
I've nvr seen a ugl sell it so if you buy it make sure it's not bunk.'
If you end up buying tablets of it you're going to pay500-1000$ a gram domestic....ouch!!!


   
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