newbie looking to do first cycle. have done lots of pm's to the gurus and mods for ideas and now have a couple choices, gonna put it out here for a little feedback from you guys. 6'1" 200 about 11-12%bf. been working out for many many years but no aas experience. may sound goofy but i do not want to blow up extrememly fast. too many around me would notice and i don't want the criticism in my workplace. i also think that a quality modest gain will be very keepable and the short cycle will not be very suppressive. feedback on these ideas is appreciated too. my two proposed cycles are: week sustanon Anavar Dbol 1 1 amp 20mged 2 2 amp 40mged 3 1 amp 30mged or week test prop anavar 1 100mg ed 40mg ed 2 100mg ed 40mg ed 3 50mg ed 20mg ed i figure i'll gain about 8-9 pounds and keep about 5-6 of them.
Uh...3 week cycle? I wouldn't do any cycle under 10 weeks man...
sus takes 4-5 weeks to kick in so option one is out. Prop is working in about 2-3 days. I'd keep it at 100mg ED-EOD for the whole deal and sub in Dbol instead of var at 30mg ED. 3 weeks is too short IMO. However I did 3 weeks of Suspension only once, just as an experiment and gained 15lbs off it. However I agree with Blake 10-12 weeks would be much better and you would keep more of the gains post cycle, assuming proper PCT is used.
Don't do anything less than 8 weeks. I've only done one cycle, but the whole PCT thing isn't cheap and your test will be suppressed after three weeks anyways. Plus like littlewilly said it takes a couple weeks for sus to kick in and after the short cycle you'll still have to deal with the catabolic affect. So all in all you'll just be putting your body through a lot of stress for very little results.
STOP READING T-MAG!
I have used 3-4 week cycles before and have liked them, but I used Test Suspension. Goin with sust in such a short cycle is not worth it. -HCG
Originally posted by BigWill STOP READING T-MAG! bump!
holy shit......
i dont advise to take any cycle if it would be for only 3 weeks.
thats pretty funny, stop reading t-mag. i have actually read that but don't like it much. i was just looking for some input, i know that the vast vast majority of people do not believe in short cycles. being a virgin, i can't say one way or the other but i will say that after reading your responses i have began to consider other ideas. i have just compliled a list to place an order and it consists of dbol, arimidex, clomid, nolva, and black label megatest-400. that ought to allow me to run an 8 week test cycle with a little dbol in the beginning, arimidex for bloat, nolva for gyno, and clomid for post. maybe i need some hcg too? i am very open to suggestions, criticisms. perhaps i should go with enanthate at 400 a week instead of the blend megatest-400?
keep it simple you'll be happy classic first cycle test 400-500mg/wk 10-12 weeks use cyp, enth or sust.. no big difference.. eq or deca 300-400mg week for 10-12 weeks.. clomid 3 weeks after last shot.. keep nolva on hand.. eat lots of food and keep diet clean..
8 weeks seems like an optimal amount of time to me for a cycle...not too long...not too short...
what do you think about using the megatest, sort of like sustanon, contains 25mg prop, 50mg phenylprop, 75mg cyp, 75mg enanth, and 175mg decanoate to make it 400mg test/ml.
I dunno, I'd just keep it simple like the boys stated, classic first cycle is as ironman stated, I'm looking at doing a first cycle towards the end of the year and am going to do test enanth 500mg week 1-8 eq 300mg week 1-8 PCT as necessary and may continue cycle through to 10 weeks if happy with progress.
if you have nolvadex, why waste your $$ on arimidex. they are both anti -e's but arimidex cost alot more. this would be a great , basic 1st cycle week 1-3 30mg's d-bol ED week 1-8 500 mg's test i would go at least 10 weeks but i made it 8 because you wanted it short. since you dont want to gain too much i didnt stack it. i wouldnt worry much about it. & IMO any good cycle includes test