rec. lst cycle?

Welcome bro! I'm sure you will get a lot of feedback from the brotha's.

In the meantime, check out the cycle catergory. There is a nice long thread on cycles (I think its callsed "lets make some sample cycles") Good place to start getting your feet wet. The best of the best posted some real nice begginer, interm, and experienced cycles in that one.

Posted by: spinphila

I'm 205 lbs, lean:45c17a32w
5'11"45 years oldexperienced with weights, diet, cardio

Want to gain some muscle (15, 20 lbs) but stay cut and getting even deeper cuts.

Anyone rec. a safe, basic first cycle?

I say start off with something simple.

Week 1-12 test e 500mg per week (250mg Mon&Thur)
Week 1-6 Tbol 50mg
Week 1-14 25-50mg proviron
Week 1-14 Liv52
Week 1-14 letro 2.5mg per day

PCT
Week 14-17 clomid (100mg wk 1&2)(50mg wk 3)
Week 14-17 Letro at 2.5mg per day or Aroma at 25mg per day.

Maintain a strict diet and lift hard and focus on cardio and you should yeald atleast 10-15lbs muscle and lean out in the process. But remember diet is key to gaining those cuts you want.

My first cycle consisted of Test E 500mg week, and Anavar 40mg ED for 12 weeks and I put on 22 lbs and kept 15 of those. I have tried DP's Tbol and didn't get any results from it, If you have low enough BF% you could also go with Winni 50mg ED orally or 150mg shots EOD, that helps lean me out real nicely. Good luck with your cycle, remember PCT is most important.

Posted by: dsmdemon

My first cycle consisted of Test E 500mg week, and Anavar 40mg ED for 12 weeks and I put on 22 lbs and kept 15 of those. I have tried DP's Tbol and didn't get any results from it, If you have low enough BF% you could also go with Winni 50mg ED orally or 150mg shots EOD, that helps lean me out real nicely. Good luck with your cycle, remember PCT is most important.

I would not recommend 12 weeks on any oral, even anavar.I am not sure why you did not get results on DP t-bol, myself and so many others love the stuff.Lastly i would not recommend winny to any 45 year old, it can really have an negative effect on the joints.But the 500mg of test per week, is a good recommendation.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I only did var for 8 weeks, and I as far as the age, I guess that would very on the person depending on injuries and so on.

Posted by: dsmdemon

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I only did var for 8 weeks, and I as far as the age, I guess that would very on the person depending on injuries and so on.

Sorry, i did not mean come off the way that i wanted.What i mean is that winny is harsh on the joints and lipid profile, so that is something that should be of concern for someone in their 40's.Actually someone at any age should be worried about that...lol.Anyways, Anavar or t-bol would both be better choices than winny.If money is not a issue, then i would definately go with anavar.

No need to get fancy or use high doses for what you want, especially with it being your first cycle. If you want to cut I'd avoid high dosages of test. You could run 400mg week of eq with 200mg week of test E for 10 weeks and gain 15-20 lbs without bloating, provided your diet is in check. My first cycle I ran EQ at 400mg for 10 weeks and gained 17 lbs. But honestly, a cycle is just not as fun without test...so throw in the 200 just to add an extra kick.