just got my cycle, couple questions.

You should run propionate at the begining of the cycle till enanthate kicks in. For more info about hcg read the thread " HCG during aas"

the eq should be run at least 12 weeks, so ive heard anyways, ive never used it.

test 750 wk, 2-3 shots, weeks 1-13 eq 800 mgs week 1, 600 mgs weeks 2-12 prop 100 mgs ed or eod weeks 1-3 u dont need the d-bol then, maybe swap for some winny, run that weeks 9-15. PCT starting week 16. Clomid is recommended but im sure u could use nolva if u really have to....

I'd also run prop for 2-3 weeks after last shot of eq to get the most out of that gray area when the eq is clearing your system..

Originally posted by Valkyl test 750 wk, 2-3 shots, weeks 1-13 eq 800 mgs week 1, 600 mgs weeks 2-12 prop 100 mgs ed or eod weeks 1-3 u dont need the d-bol then, maybe swap for some winny, run that weeks 9-15. PCT starting week 16. Clomid is recommended but im sure u could use nolva if u really have to.... that sounds like a pretty serious cycle man, i don't know if i am ready for that yet. 15 weeks is a long time and i am in school and i like to party and shit, i also want to be off before the holidays start, around christmas time. is 600 mg of eq not enough? why take 800mg? also, what kind of vitamins and supplements do you take with your cycles? i take a multi vitamin, fish oils, triple garlic powder, calcium and protein.

anyone else? i need some more input.

Originally posted by Valkyl test 750 wk, 2-3 shots, weeks 1-13 eq 800 mgs week 1, 600 mgs weeks 2-12 prop 100 mgs ed or eod weeks 1-3 u dont need the d-bol then, maybe swap for some winny, run that weeks 9-15. PCT starting week 16. Clomid is recommended but im sure u could use nolva if u really have to.... That looks good. I may use dbol instead of prop to kickstart the cycle.

what does PCT stand for?

600mgs is more than enough. i am using test 400mg/wk and EQ 400mg/wk right now and seeing serious results. What kind are you using. i am using QV and i love it.

Originally posted by bigmack what does PCT stand for? Post Cycle Therapy = HCG/ Nolvadex I would do it like this: Test 750mg/wk 1-12 EQ 600mg/wk 1-12 D-bol 40mg/ed 1-4 Prop 100mg/eod 12-14 PCT HCG 1000iu/day 10days starting wk 15 two days after last prop injection Nolvadex 20mg/ed wk15-18 maybe run arimidex at .5mg ed until PCT starts if you want to lessen bloat and water retention from the test/d-bol. just my opinion though.....who am I to tell you?

I dont use HCG for PCT myself. I always run clomid and nolva. HCG mid cycle might have some benefit but I have yet to try it.

why are you saying to use prop towards the end of my cycle? i thought you were supposed to use it at the beginning? that is what i had planned on doing.

Originally posted by bigmack why are you saying to use prop towards the end of my cycle? i thought you were supposed to use it at the beginning? that is what i had planned on doing. There is no need for it if you are running d-bol in the beginning. Use it to keep hormone levels high while the long acting esters are getting out of your system. With it's short half-life, you can start PCT only a couple days after your last injection as opposed to 2-3 weeks with EQ and test cyp or enanthate. It will also give you the "mental" edge you need towards the end of your cycle knowing you are still injecting something instead of just waiting for the other drugs to leave your system to start PCT.

if i decide not to use d-bol at all, can i use prop at the beginning and at the end of my cycle?