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31/01/2022 2:24 pm
I am 6' 195 pounds. I take in around 2500-3000 calories a day very low fat, oatmeal, turkey, wheat bread, tuna, chichen breast protein shakes etc..... I had been lifting for 3 years and i stopped for like 8 months. Now I am back on my fourth month. Lifting very heavy at least 6 days a week. I am thinking about going with Dbol or turanabol and winstrol. If anyone could give me some advice on dosage and other products i should be taking with it I would really appreciate it.
31/01/2022 4:28 pm
alot of orals for you first cycle isnt gonna make you happy. by the sounds of it you need to read about the drugs you wanna use more. you just cant put something in your body that you have no idea what its doing. orals will put some size on you but i bet you alot that if you research about test and use that you will be more happy.
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31/01/2022 4:51 pm
The thing is i cant exactly be shooting up all the time, for the fact that my girlfriend lives with me . I figure popping pills would be less obvious and if she found them it would be easier to convince her of somehting different than if i had needles and viles . So i guess i will probally go with the tbol. Do you think that would be alright? If so how much do you think would be an effective amount for my first go at it. again any help would be greatly appreciated.
31/01/2022 5:15 pm
The thing is i cant exactly be shooting up all the time, for the fact that my girlfriend lives with me .I figure popping pills would be less obvious and if she found them it would be easier to convince her of somehting different than if i had needles and viles .So i guess i will probally go with the tbol.Do you think that would be alright?If so how much do you think would be an effective amount for my first go at it.again any help would be greatly appreciated.
Evening Bro,
Seems like a tough situation.I suppose one idea would
be to let her know what's going on and see if she
would be alright with your decision OR I'd suggest you
wait on the juice.Your first cycle is pretty much going
to be the best cycle that you'll ever have since your
receptors are clean.I don't see any real reason to waste
this opportunity...and in the case of your girlfriend living
with you, you'll have a clear conscience.Ok, I'm off my
soapbox....
On to your question....
Personally, THE BEST oral cycle that I could recommend
from my own expereince is 40-50mg/day of anavar.It's
light on the system and the results are amazing.However,
price...is very high. T-Bol, is a much better choice over dbol
if you plan on running an all oral cycle.Running this at
40-50mg/day will also give you great gains, however, it's bit
more toxic then anavar and a little less toxic than dbol.
You will want to get your liver values checked before cycle,
mid-cycle, and about 1-2 months post cycle just to see
how you react to methylated compounds.Same wouldn't
hurt with a cycle of var.
Next question, what are you goals for this cycle?If you're
planning to gain 15-20lbs...forget it.Anavar will give you
great strength gains, but not mass gains.Tbol, was designed
to be something of a more gentler dbol, and is intended to
give good strength and performance with slowly accrued
lean body mass gains.My guess is on a 6 week cycle you'll
probably put on about 6-10 keepable lbs after PCT.
FWIW, I had a buddy who would only use anavar cycles at
50mg/day for 6 weeks followed by clomid for pct.He gained
a good 20+ pounds distributed over 6 or 7 cycles.Then he
switched over to injectables and never looked back.Mainly,
he switched over because of cost.
Peace,
xixer
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31/01/2022 5:52 pm
thanks for the info. I havent made up my mind, but after much thought i am actually leaning towards the injectables now.
31/01/2022 6:09 pm
You can always use longer acting esters so you dont have to inject as frequently. Plus it seems that injectables are easier to deal with, not like taking pills everyday. You just do an injection once or twice a week. I just seem to prefer injectables because I tend to forget to take my orals at the right times or just forget to take it all together. Shit happens you know. Good luck.
31/01/2022 6:36 pm
I'm glad to hear your leaning toward injectables too. The are much less harsh on your body and produce better long term results.
If your living with a girl you can't tell about everything your thinking about, maybe it's time for a new girl!
31/01/2022 7:07 pm
Good stuff bro,
Injectables are the way to go.
Bump to EM...if you can't share stuff like this
with your girl, it might be time to start looking
for one you can, and who is open minded...
Hell, my girl will even do the pins for me when I
gotta hit the glutes... makes life so much easier
when pinning that spot. Though, I think she has
a sadistic side and likes pinning me. Last week
she was asking if it was time for her to pin me.
LOL :::grins:::
Peace,
xixer
04/05/2022 9:15 am
this is my first cycle i want to start, i'm french, what's your opinion ?
S1 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 30 diana / 25 nolva/ 900 liv 52
S2 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 30 diana / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S3 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 30 diana / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S4 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 30 diana / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S5 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S6 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S7 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S8 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S9 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S10 - 250 decabol / 1500 iu HCG
S11 - 2 x 1500 iu HCG
7 days clomid 100
7 days clomid 50
04/05/2022 9:38 am
why are you running the test so low? i know some of the fella's run thier cycles with low doses of test but what are your goals for this cycle?
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04/05/2022 9:54 am
What are your reasons for dropping the test completely and still running the deca at 250mg?
04/05/2022 10:13 am
this is my first cycle i want to start, i'm french, what's your opinion ?S1 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 30 diana / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S2 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 30 diana / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S3 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 30 diana / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S4 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 30 diana / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S5 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S6 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S7 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S8 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S9 - 500 decabol / 200 cypionate / 25 nolva / 900 liv 52
S10 - 250 decabol / 1500 iu HCG
S11 - 2 x 1500 iu HCG
7 days clomid 100
7 days clomid 50
this cycle is not layed out properly.the hcg should be run during cycle @ 250-500 iu's twice a week, weeks 4-10.the test should be run @ 500 mgs a week and the deca @ 400 mgs a week,and you should not run the deca a week longer than the test.your pct should be 3 weeks minumum and 10-14 days after last inject.if your going to run nolva during the cycle run it @ 20 mgs a week,why at 25 their 20 mg pills? this cycle makes no sence!!
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04/05/2022 10:40 am
this cycle is not layed out properly.the hcg should be run during cycle @ 250-500 iu's twice a week, weeks 4-10.the test should be run @ 500 mgs a week and the deca @ 400 mgs a week,and you should not run the deca a week longer than the test.your pct should be 3 weeks minumum and 10-14 days after last inject.if your going to run nolva during the cycle run it @ 20 mgs a week,why at 25 their 20 mg pills? this cycle makes no sence!!
it's british dragon nolvadex, pills of 50 ... but i can split the pill in two parts ...
it's a friend who says me to do this cycle ...
he says that :
run the deca more longer than the test can skip problemes of long ester of the testo ... because the last testo i take will have effect during my pct, no ?
he says me to increase deca to 500 et decrease testo to 250 because i can skip problemes of androgenic action and gynecomastia ...
don't you think like him ? why ?
can you explain the prob of HCG ? you say that, from the week 4 to the week 10 i have to take probably 500 iu of HCG every sunday, is it true ?
sorry, because i'm french