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ShizzoNizzo
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hey if this is a bulk cycle and u only have 200mg of test then it's ok...don't go on a 10 week cycle for EQ since it takes about weeks 5-6 to kick in...


   
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If you're going to run a 10 week cycle of eq run the prop for 13 weeks so it all clears your system at the same time.. then start PCT 3 days after last inject of prop.. If you're going to frontload test cyp/enath with prop start both on day one.. Starting cyp mid cycle is dumb.. why make this complicated?? classic first cycle test 500mg/wk eq 400mg/wk run both for 12 weeks.. start pct 3'rd week after last shot..


   
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Ironman_845: sounds excellent. I agree with you. Since Equipoise has about a 3 week halflife, run the test 3 weeks past your last injection of EQ. Also, you will hold less water on Prop than Enanthate, but you will have to stick yourself more using the prop (idealy every day, but EOD is possible).


   
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Posted by: @fivestarj

The goal is to increase muscle mass but, not to blow up. Cycle would be 10 weeks long.

Then run femera or adex thoughout. As for the cycle, I like ironman's idea, but prop is typically a lil more expensive than long ester tests, so, if that's the case, you could do this to save $: wks 1-10: eq wks 1-10: 400 or 500mg long ester test (cyp, enan, or sust) wks 11, 12: prop 100mg EOD wks 0-13: femera at 1.25 or 2.5mg ED or armi at 0.25 or 0.5mg ED (begin PCT week 13)

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Feli Fly, by adding the femera or arimidex, the cost would prob. come out to be the same if not a little higher (opposed to going with the more expensive Test Prop).


   
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Posted by: @diablo570

Feli Fly, by adding the femera or arimidex, the cost would prob. come out to be the same if not a little higher (opposed to going with the more expensive Test Prop).

I understand that bro, but he'll get some bloat and water retention from eq nonetheless. So, if he's really concerned about the "blowing up" look, an anti-aromo is the way to go IMO.

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Oh, I see Feli Fly. I wasnt aware thae EQ caused that much bloat, especially at only 400mg/wk. I would take 25mg Nolva ED reagardles jut to be safe. If one can afford it, use Arimidex @ 0.25-0.5mg/day ED too.


   
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Posted by: @bd23

what do you think about runnin prop for 10 weeks... and why would it be so painful BD23

ya im running human grade prop rite now for 10 weeks, im only in week two but the pain from injection is almost gone, it seems to only hurt for the first few shots

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ironman_845
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Feli Fly - eq bloat?? don't think so.. and the doses of femara you recommed are way to high..


   
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Ironman_845, thats what I was confused about.EQ and bloat, didnt think so. femara is coslty as well, stick with liquid nolva and liquid arimidex-both quite inexpensive. Liquid Nolva is real cheap too-for post cycle(PCT).


   
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Feli Fly
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Posted by: @ironman_845

Feli Fly - eq bloat?? don't think so.. and the doses of femara you recommed are way to high..

I would imagine you would have at least some water retention / bloat from eq since it has among the longest ester of all AS and increases estrogen and appetite a lil, but if you guys say you stay dry, ok. As for femara... I think I'll be running that with most of my future cycles, and I'm positive that 2.5mg ED is the standard dose, but since a few guys I've PMed with or whose posts I've read have experienced rigidity sides at that dose of letro, that's why I mentioned using maybe half that. Some guys seem to get 1 or 1.25mg ED to work fine and have no ill effects. It seems to have different effects on different users...

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ironman_845
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Diablo570 - femara is that much more expensive the arimidex.. even taking 1mg e3rd day it works.. LR has it at a decent price.. Feli - Nolva & Arimi is what I prefer..


   
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Posted by: @ironman_845

If you're going to run a 10 week cycle of eq run the prop for 13 weeks so it all clears your system at the same time.. then start PCT 3 days after last inject of prop.. If you're going to frontload test cyp/enath with prop start both on day one.. Starting cyp mid cycle is dumb.. why make this complicated?? classic first cycle test 500mg/wk eq 400mg/wk run both for 12 weeks.. start pct 3'rd week after last shot..

here is a stupid question, would someone tell me what the hell PCT is in reference to?

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post cycle therapy


   
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Posted by: @woahpal

here is a stupid question, would someone tell me what the hell PCT is in reference to?

There's no such thing as a stupid question in this game.

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