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27/08/2018 6:55 am
Now I plan on using Test enth 500mg once a week for 8 weeks. Then I know that I need do PCT with clomid stepping down over time IE: day 1 100mg, days 2-14 50mg etc. But what would you recommend for a new comer to try out? Now this is of course right after my 8 week cycle. so pct should last around 4 weeks total to minimize side effects?
Also what is HCG and would I benefit from using it every 3rd to 5th day during the cycle, then end it after my last shot.
My problem is I dont know when to take each part of the equation. Any info to get my going would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all, I've learned so much here in so little time it's frightning.
-Nick
27/08/2018 7:46 am
You may need to post your stats, as well as your training history and goals to get a more accurate evaluation.
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27/08/2018 8:42 am
Well as of right now. I'm 6'2 175lbs, with a Bf % of around 7-9. When this is all said and done I would love to be around 185-195 lean muscle. Ive been training steady and at the same pace for around 3 years which has been great because I used to be 150 back in High School. Ive had good gains since then but now it's come to a point where I have realized I am a hard gainer. Hard gainer or not however I've always wanted to try this as I've seen excellent results in friends/few family members that have done it over the years. I just know nothing about how to take it other than injection, and when to take everything. Clomid, HCG if needed. Id just like to minimize atrophy and anything else I possibly can. I've read I can do Clomid/Hcg while on my cycle to aid in everything. Thanks
27/08/2018 9:34 am
Thats' pretty resonable expectations. I would divide the TE into two injections. Say one on mon and thurs. Hcg will prevent testicular atrophy and help with pct. 500 mcgs 3x a week is what most ppl use. You could probably cut that to 2x.
Since it's your first cycle, you'll want to have nolva on hand in case of gyno. If you haven't purchased Clomid yet, you can also use nolva for PCT.
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27/08/2018 10:19 am
You didn't say what your age is. If you're in your early 20's we need to give you a lecture first. Then you'll probably go and do it anyway. LOL
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27/08/2018 10:58 am
Well I'm open to lectures/comments/whatever you wish. Im young and to be honest a Newbie to this. It's not a matter of me being lazy. As I work my tail off at the gym and I've had damn good gains in the weight I can do now, I'm happy with that. BUT Ive been keeping consistant with a 6 week routine then changing it up so my body will not become used to it and I have not gained in size at all I just get stronger. I understand I am a hard gainer, and need to focus slightly more on diet than anything else as I need to take in serious calories/protein/fat/carbs to see anything out of it. Damn Ectomorphs! I personally am just sick of seeing myself just as strong as these bigger guys with great bodies and I'm still stuck like a 12 year old. Not that I'm doing this out of frustration, but I have 2 friends that have both done it. I've literally watched them go from my build to minimum 10-20 lbs heavier with muscle. I do understand it's not the wisest for a 21 year old to start on gear so young. But that is why I'm here asking the questions about precautions, what I can do to minimize side effects, and the proper way it needs to be done. I may have seen kids get great results from it, but I've also seen morons taking it wrong and screw them selves up for doing so.
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And I really do appreciate what your all doing here, even if it is just a lecture. I'm coming out of this knowing more than I went in with.
27/08/2018 11:37 am
You seem to have the right attitude and approach. I'll leave the lecturing to others. Make sure you follow thru on the pct tho and don't fall into the habit of staying on. That could be detrimental esp at 21.
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27/08/2018 12:37 pm
Thats my only problem right now. I just need to know how to correctly do pct to keep my gains and not screw myself up with gyno/atrophy of the testes. That would just set you back a step from where you started with temporary gains...Which is the wrong way to approach it entirely. And finally, my goals/plan do not include staying on this. I mean why do it and not do it correctly. Waste of everyones time and YOUR money.
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27/08/2018 1:22 pm
One final question. If I'm doing an 8 week cycle. I'm assuming the quantity of Clomid/Nolva/HCG/Test Enan aren't that long so I may need to buy more than 1 bottle/container correct?
27/08/2018 1:58 pm
Yes you should actually just get two bottles of enethate... run the cycle for 10 weeks... spli the inj into twice a week of 250mg (or 1cc)... and take the hcg 500ius 2 times a week as stated above.
Post cycle should be nolva/Clomid combo in my opinion..
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27/08/2018 2:58 pm
So I'd actually be doing 1 cc a week into 2 (250mg) shots mon/thurs, and the HCG I read I should do it 3-5 days after my shot, but since I'm doing 2x a week I could just do HCG mon/thurs as well? Then Hcg into my first week of PCT, then continue that for 4-6 weeks with Clomid/Nolva with a tapered effect 100mg day 1-10, 11-20 etc? Other than that I think I'm all set just time to sit down and plan out a diet/workout to match.
27/08/2018 3:53 pm
From what I've understood I'd take HCG 1000iu 3 weeks before the end of your cycle, for a period of 2 weeks. You wan tot stop HCG about 6 days before commencing PCT. During hcg admin take 10-20mg nolva.
That's what seems to be general consensus, asyou don't want to be subjected to hcg for a long period of time.