Cycle for MMA; muscle, strength and fatloss?

Re: Cycle for MMA; muscle, strength and fatloss?

Posted by: trenboloni

I'm trying to accomplish all the above (more muscle, strenght, less fat) in one 8 week cycle, I know it's very hard but please bear with me, I will elaborate.

I'm in the top of my weight class (light heavyweight) with a few pounds under the limit. My fat % is probably around 16% so there's much to drop and it should be easy with gear.

Here is the cycle designed around two upcoming MMA events, please let me know what you think!

Weeks 1-4 250mg test enathate, 200mg EQ, arimedex 0.25mg ED, test prop 50mg EOD, tren acetate 37,5mg EOD, IGF 60mcg after training
Week 5-6 250mg test enathate, 200mg EQ, arimedex 0.25mg ED
Week 7 test prop 50mg EOD
Week 8-12HCG and Clomid

(So basically it's a 6 week cycle with a base of test250, EQ200 for the whole time. Adding a 4 week bulk in the start with tren, prop and IGF, the last 2 weeks of cutting without these fast acting items)

MATCHES on the weekends on week 6 and 8. Thus I begin my PCT two days after the last match. Propionate and HCG taken on weeks 7-8 in low doses to ensure that there is testosterone still running in my body on fight night.

The rationale; first 4 weeks I do a controlled bulk, I eat clean but a lot of calories (+1000 - +1500 kcal) and weigh myself every sunday. If my weight goes too high, I cut calories but I'm ready to go around 10 pounds over my weight category because:

Weeks 5-6 are for cutting, I cut carbs and add some fats and reduce calories (around -1000kcal per day). And as I have controlled my weight in the "bulking" phase, I shouldn't be more than 10 pounds over my weight limit.

HOW DOES THIS SOUND? I know my body works great with trenbolone, it allows me to gain muscle while burning bodyfat so I think I would be OK.

But one thing I'm not sure of is Arimedex dosage: is 0.25mg OK for such a light cycle? I don't want to suppress estrogen too much as it will mess up my cholestrol.

Also I would like to up the dose of trenbolone to 50 EOD, but I'm worried it will mess up my cardio. What do you think? My match is 2 x 3 minutes so it's not bad at all but I need to train with intensity too so that may be an issue.

Thanks!

I'm not into MMA, but I'll give this a shot. First, ditch the EQ. EQ shoould only be used if the cycle is 12 weeks minimum...I prefer longer. Tren will affect you cardio and I don't think it's prudent for most sports that require some endurance (greater than 1 minute) and fighting is a high intensity (probably above VO2 Max) 3 minutes. Also recovery, is undoubtebly vital between barrages, right? The ADex seems OK for that amount of Test.....Although I wouldn't worry about taking 0.5mg for a short cycle Bro. I would prefer doing Prop only cycle (350mg/w) with 0.5 mg of ADex, then cutting with the addtion of masteron at the End (350mg/w) and reduction of the Prop (maybe 100mg/w). I've used Masteron as high as 400mg and did nothing but get harder and shed bodyfat (no weight gain!). Also, Prop and Masteron are high in Androgens, so your mental state for fighting should be perfect.

EQ is there mainly to combat the anti-aerobic properties of trenbolone. And as you see, I plan to stop tren 2 weeks before the fight for the same reason. Anyway you have good points and I also might continue the cycle with low dose test and EQ for a bit longer... dunno... have to think. Thanks for the feedback though!

EDIT: If I had masteron, I would take it. But I can't get any at the moment

Re: Cycle for MMA; muscle, strength and fatloss?

Posted by: trenboloni

I'm trying to accomplish all the above (more muscle, strenght, less fat) in one 8 week cycle, I know it's very hard but please bear with me, I will elaborate.

I'm in the top of my weight class (light heavyweight) with a few pounds under the limit. My fat % is probably around 16% so there's much to drop and it should be easy with gear.

Here is the cycle designed around two upcoming MMA events, please let me know what you think!

Weeks 1-4 250mg test enathate, 200mg EQ, arimedex 0.25mg ED, test prop 50mg EOD, tren acetate 37,5mg EOD, IGF 60mcg after training
Week 5-6 250mg test enathate, 200mg EQ, arimedex 0.25mg ED
Week 7 test prop 50mg EOD
Week 8-12HCG and Clomid

(So basically it's a 6 week cycle with a base of test250, EQ200 for the whole time. Adding a 4 week bulk in the start with tren, prop and IGF, the last 2 weeks of cutting without these fast acting items)

MATCHES on the weekends on week 6 and 8. Thus I begin my PCT two days after the last match. Propionate and HCG taken on weeks 7-8 in low doses to ensure that there is testosterone still running in my body on fight night.

The rationale; first 4 weeks I do a controlled bulk, I eat clean but a lot of calories (+1000 - +1500 kcal) and weigh myself every sunday. If my weight goes too high, I cut calories but I'm ready to go around 10 pounds over my weight category because:

Weeks 5-6 are for cutting, I cut carbs and add some fats and reduce calories (around -1000kcal per day). And as I have controlled my weight in the "bulking" phase, I shouldn't be more than 10 pounds over my weight limit.

HOW DOES THIS SOUND? I know my body works great with trenbolone, it allows me to gain muscle while burning bodyfat so I think I would be OK.

But one thing I'm not sure of is Arimedex dosage: is 0.25mg OK for such a light cycle? I don't want to suppress estrogen too much as it will mess up my cholestrol.

Also I would like to up the dose of trenbolone to 50 EOD, but I'm worried it will mess up my cardio. What do you think? My match is 2 x 3 minutes so it's not bad at all but I need to train with intensity too so that may be an issue.

Thanks!

I'm not into MMA, but I'll give this a shot. First, ditch the EQ. EQ shoould only be used if the cycle is 12 weeks minimum...I prefer longer. Tren will affect you cardio and I don't think it's prudent for most sports that require some endurance (greater than 1 minute) and fighting is a high intensity (probably above VO2 Max) 3 minutes. Also recovery, is undoubtebly vital between barrages, right? The ADex seems OK for that amount of Test.....Although I wouldn't worry about taking 0.5mg for a short cycle Bro. I would prefer doing Prop only cycle (350mg/w) with 0.5 mg of ADex, then cutting with the addtion of Masteron at the End (350mg/w) and reduction of the Prop (maybe 100mg/w). I've used Masteron as high as 400mg and did nothing but get harder and shed bodyfat (no weight gain!). Also, Prop and Masteron are high in Androgens, so your mental state for fighting should be perfect.

Re: Cycle for MMA; muscle, strength and fatloss?

Posted by: trenboloni

I'm trying to accomplish all the above (more muscle, strenght, less fat) in one 8 week cycle, I know it's very hard but please bear with me, I will elaborate.

I'm in the top of my weight class (light heavyweight) with a few pounds under the limit. My fat % is probably around 16% so there's much to drop and it should be easy with gear.

Here is the cycle designed around two upcoming MMA events, please let me know what you think!

Weeks 1-4 250mg test enathate, 200mg EQ, arimedex 0.25mg ED, test prop 50mg EOD, tren acetate 37,5mg EOD, IGF 60mcg after training
Week 5-6 250mg test enathate, 200mg EQ, arimedex 0.25mg ED
Week 7 test prop 50mg EOD
Week 8-12HCG and Clomid

(So basically it's a 6 week cycle with a base of test250, EQ200 for the whole time. Adding a 4 week bulk in the start with tren, prop and IGF, the last 2 weeks of cutting without these fast acting items)

MATCHES on the weekends on week 6 and 8. Thus I begin my PCT two days after the last match. Propionate and HCG taken on weeks 7-8 in low doses to ensure that there is testosterone still running in my body on fight night.

The rationale; first 4 weeks I do a controlled bulk, I eat clean but a lot of calories (+1000 - +1500 kcal) and weigh myself every sunday. If my weight goes too high, I cut calories but I'm ready to go around 10 pounds over my weight category because:

Weeks 5-6 are for cutting, I cut carbs and add some fats and reduce calories (around -1000kcal per day). And as I have controlled my weight in the "bulking" phase, I shouldn't be more than 10 pounds over my weight limit.

HOW DOES THIS SOUND? I know my body works great with trenbolone, it allows me to gain muscle while burning bodyfat so I think I would be OK.

But one thing I'm not sure of is Arimedex dosage: is 0.25mg OK for such a light cycle? I don't want to suppress estrogen too much as it will mess up my cholestrol.

Also I would like to up the dose of trenbolone to 50 EOD, but I'm worried it will mess up my cardio. What do you think? My match is 2 x 3 minutes so it's not bad at all but I need to train with intensity too so that may be an issue.

Thanks!

I'm not into MMA, but I'll give this a shot. First, ditch the EQ. EQ shoould only be used if the cycle is 12 weeks minimum...I prefer longer. Tren will affect you cardio and I don't think it's prudent for most sports that require some endurance (greater than 1 minute) and fighting is a high intensity (probably above VO2 Max) 3 minutes. Also recovery, is undoubtebly vital between barrages, right? The ADex seems OK for that amount of Test.....Although I wouldn't worry about taking 0.5mg for a short cycle Bro. I would prefer doing Prop only cycle (350mg/w) with 0.5 mg of ADex, then cutting with the addtion of Masteron at the End (350mg/w) and reduction of the Prop (maybe 100mg/w). I've used Masteron as high as 400mg and did nothing but get harder and shed bodyfat (no weight gain!). Also, Prop and Masteron are high in Androgens, so your mental state for fighting should be perfect.