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24/03/2022 5:38 pm
Im going to be purchasing the bulkers cycle only one problem, just today another coworker asked if I was on steroids. I cut up a bit on clen,cytomel, and oral stanazol. Then went on to oral turinabol and still used the stanazol on top of that. I wasnt perfectly strict on my diet because I have never tried to consume that many calories. As a natural builder I was convinced I could grow on protein alone and not so high calorie so with the new diet my body fat came back back a little but still had a considerable growth in both size and strength. At first it wasnt noticeable to me but all the sudden the growth took off and others noticed and asked questions.
My question is if I reduce the dosages and use the same total amount of gear over longer time will my gains still be as good. I grow really quick to begin with as long as Im eating enough so Im worried a bulk cycle will be obvious with the water gain and size, as well as possibley worse acne from the test. I already see a dermatoligist. and its not really that bad just a few big zits now and then but I do have oily skin already.
Will stretching the cycle out an extra 2 weeks will I still have similar gains. I can add in some of the stanazol or oral turinabol if that will help stretch the test and decabol? thanks much guys and gals for any help just want to keep my butt out of trouble at work when I get even bigger.
24/03/2022 5:57 pm
what will the cycle look like, and post your stats.
bulk cycles do just that bulk you up, for me too much too fast.
I dont like water retention at all, so I stay with les harsh lean mass
building compounds.
later
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24/03/2022 6:27 pm
On top of your game there DK, that post barely got up there and already a reply. The cycle is the the genx novice bulkers with 500mg Test Depot 200 and 400mg Decabol a week for 10 weeks. Also week 1-4 incorporates 30mg methanabol ed. I would like to stretch that to 12 weeks and use the OT or stanazol in there towards the end for a few weeks. If i wasnt so tired or had a calculator Id figure up how much the reduces my dose weekly. Keep in mind this will be my first real cycle with injectables and test.
Thanks much
24/03/2022 6:54 pm
the only thing I can think to tell you is knock the test down to 400mg a week
and run it for a few more weeks alone until pct, if your looking to hide your gains witch personaly makes no sence to me then this is not going to help
deca and Dbol give fast mass gains, adding in t-bol ot winny will just add more mass on. I would ditch this cycle and use other products for leaner
slower gains....
something like this.
1-5 40mg tbol per day
1-13 400mg test cyp per week
1-13 400mg eq per week
easy and slower gains....
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24/03/2022 7:23 pm
Sorry I will clarify what I meant, I dont mean to hide my gains only slow how fast they show. I would just rather coworkers didnt instantly think I was on juice, as that could be a bad thing for me. I originally wanted the lean mass lovers cycle but the more I read suggested that first cycle should always be bulk. In the end I might get roughly 8 pounds in 12 weeks on a lean cycle or 16 pounds on a bulk cycle. I just wondered if I could lower doses and stretch itover more weeks if I would still have similar gains in the end.
I figured up that if I stretch it another 2 weeks the dose is 333 mg per week of Decabol and Test Depot goes from 500mg a week down to 416mg per week. Sorry such a stupid question I just hoped by lengthing the cycle the change would not be so obvious to others.
Thanks for your help I'll reading a bit more before I commit to an order.
Also Dk you said you try to stay away from the bloated water weight. The bulk kit comes with Proviron and Nolva to be taken throughout the cycle. If taken like this would it keep most of the water off. I to would rather not look like a chipmunk with a puffy face.
24/03/2022 7:48 pm
Anyone making any gains these days is accused ok taking steriods. Tell them no but thanks for the complement. Don't make a big deal of it and it will pass for the most part. Wear loose fitting shirts.
24/03/2022 8:17 pm
Sorry I will clarify what I meant, I dont mean to hide my gains only slow how fast they show.I would just rather coworkers didnt instantly think I was on juice, as that could be a bad thing for me.I originally wanted the lean mass lovers cycle but the more I read suggested that first cycle should always be bulk. In the end I might get roughly 8 pounds in 12 weeks on a lean cycle or 16 pounds on a bulk cycle. I just wondered if I could lower doses and stretch itover more weeks if I would still have similar gains in the end.I figured up that if I stretch it another 2 weeks the dose is 333 mg per week of Decabol and Test Depot goes from 500mg a week down to 416mg per week.Sorry such a stupid question I just hoped by lengthing the cycle the change would not be so obvious to others.
Thanks for your help I'll reading a bit more before I commit to an order.
Also Dk you said you try to stay away from the bloated water weight.The bulk kit comes with Proviron and Nolva to be taken throughout the cycle.If taken like this would it keep most of the water off.I to would rather not look like a chipmunk with a puffy face.
the proviron and the nolva will help but for me they tend to do little for others they stay dry as a bone. By streching the cycle 2 more weeks at those doses will do little to nothing, if your a bloater then you will bloat plain and simple. Since you have never cycled with these compounds you dont know how your going to react so its hard to make an educated decision. As far as doing a bulker for your 1st cycle being the best I feel that Bull shit. I know many preach it but it doesnt make any sence to me, Look at it like this
A boxer who needs to keep in a specific weight class wants to use roids, he cant use compounds that are going to make him retain mass amounts of water or he will loose his weight, so he would need to choose compounds that will benifit him and his goals. This is how I cycle and also eat I do both depending on my goals. I like to be lean , I dont care about being huge or overly strong, so my cycles tend to be modest with lower doses and safer compounds.
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24/03/2022 8:38 pm
Well Im glad to find someone who doesnt feel like you need to do a bulker first time around. I originally wanted a cutting cycle but was urged away from it. I ride mountain bike alot and you dont see a whole lot of massive guys on the trail. In biking we fight for every little ounce of weight we can save sometimes with high dollar titanium and carbon fiber.
I know its mostly all related to diet and training but how much weight have you kept from your EQ and test cycles in the past. That and what kind of test do you run? Also Im unable to find out if both or oils or water. Can these be ran in the same syringe??? Thanks much for info.
24/03/2022 8:55 pm
DK is giving you some good advise... I too avoid what are considered bulk cycles,,, I want lean gains with no bloat or gyno problems from estrogens,,, To achieve it use Lower doses of Test... as low as 150mg a week which is a Test replacement dose... and do your growing with a non aromatizing steroid... Tbol,,Primo,,Winny,, Tren,,Anavar,,, EQ aromatizes just a little...
Test and EQ would be a good first cycle like DK gave you...
And to answer your question... yes Test and Eq are suspended in oil and can be mixed into the same syringe
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24/03/2022 9:19 pm
Well Im glad to find someone who doesnt feel like you need to do a bulker first time around. I originally wanted a cutting cycle but was urged away from it.I ride mountain bike alot and you dont see a whole lot of massive guys on the trail. In biking we fight for every little ounce of weight we can save sometimes with high dollar titanium and carbon fiber.
I know its mostly all related to diet and training but how much weight have you kept from your EQ and test cycles in the past.That and what kind of test do you run? Also Im unable to find out if both or oils or water.Can these be ran in the same syringe???Thanks much for info.
from a test/eq cycle with a good diet you can keep 10 to 15lbs easy
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