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luther
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Big Cat recommends this cycle on bb.com. Does this cycle fit my goals? I am 6 foot 185lbs 10% bodyfat. I'm 28 years old. I have been training for 13 years. This would be my 5th cycle in the last 6 years. My goal is to weigh 200lbs with around the same bodyfat.

Week 1-12 : Testosterone Enanthate / cypionate 400-500 mg/week
Or : Testosterone Propionate 150 mg every other day

Week 1-2 : boldenone Undecylenate 600-800 mg/week
Week 3-12 : Boldenone Undecylenate 300-400 mg/week
Week 6-13 :Stanozolol 50-100 mg/day
Week 12-14 : HCG 3000/3000/1500/1500 IU / 5days
Week 12-17 : tamoxifen citrate 20 mg/day
Week 14-15 : clomiphene Citrate 100 mg/day
Week 16-17 : clomiphene Citrate 50 mg/day


   
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Black Baccara
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To frontload with a long ester as undecylenate will mostly rise the duration of action of the product instead to rise the blood concentration very much.

But I think that BC must have good reasons to recommend this cycle.


   
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jboldman
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what was the date of the posting of this cycle?

jb


   
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triguy
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wheres the test!

test & eq from the beg!


   
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Nytol2
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I think boldenone is crap, so no, I would not agree with that cycle.

At your hight, even with small bone structure, you should be able to hit 200lbs without AAS.

What sort of weights are you lifting in the big exercises?


   
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Tazmaniac
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I don't like EQ.

It depends on your goals, but you CANT go wrong with Test/Tren.

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epote
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I think boldenone is crap, so no, I would not agree with that cycle.


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I don't like EQ.


out of curiocity, why?

"tiss a visitor i muttered
knokcing on my chamber door
only this and nothing more"


   
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jboldman
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my experience with eq is that it brings nothing to the table. test on the other hand works great. some like eq but there are many like myself that think it to be basically a waste of money and injections.

jb


   
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Tazmaniac
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Posted by: epote
out of curiocity, why?

I've never noticed any positive effects from EQ unless I was using 1200mg every week or higher.

I think bang for the buck, EQ is pretty useless. I never noticed any of the so called positive effects people notice from it. I did notice a bit of hunger while using it, but I really don't want that for leaning out. Also, I think it's effects for "healing" are overblown and would much rather use Deca for that.

You have to go with what your body responds to. EQ doesn't do jack crap for me unless 1200mg +.

My body responds great to Test, Tren, Var, Winny.

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 GNT
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I concur that boldenone is somewhat overestimated. For me nandrolone is a better overall pharmaceutical. Very low tendency for aromatisation and slight to moderate progestagenic activity. Some more advanced guys can use nandrolone (mostly PP) for cutting also.
Heck, I know of a guy that uses 400mg/week on his cutting cycles. Then again he's 270 lbs

P.S.: Deca is also way cheaper where I live....


   
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Zircon
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looks good...I like hte hcg usage. I wud prob limit winny to last 4 weeks only. In fact I'd stick with tbol personally, or just prop.


   
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epote
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i see fair enough thanks for the responces

actually, what could be the reason for the aclaimed hunger caused by bold?

"tiss a visitor i muttered
knokcing on my chamber door
only this and nothing more"


   
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Zircon
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damn I am am tempted to try 500mg enan for 12 weeks. Only thin is ppl will know for sure I juice. I builked up pretty much on just 2 weekers lol.

I reckon with the HCG and clomid/nolva, good diet, will produce pretty useful gains, and good recovery...with the right diet.

I somewhat agree with other guys...you'll prob do just as well without eq. I used 7 weeks EQ only at 200mg a week...def imrpoved vascularity aruond week 5...some hunger increase, but not crazy...could've been placebo. THen again, I'm a cyclist...seems lower doses affect me more than most.

My ideal might be test enan 1-10 500mg...prop weeks 1-3 100mg eod. and prop weeks 11-13 100mg...then hcg and full pct...

sweet and simple...must say i liked Tbol a Lot though...even at 30mg...btu that was coupeld with low dose tren...


   
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Nytol2
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Posted by: epote
out of curiocity, why?

Pretty much as JB said, it gave me nothing above what I would expect from the test I was running with it.

No hunger, or increased pumps, the only thing I did get was some aggitation toward the end of teh cycle, which was different from the sort I would get from tren, it was not pleasent.

As someone else posted nandrolone is much better, got very good gains off of test/deca.

Test and tren is the king of stacks, IMO, but I still dont think the author of this thread needs such things yet.


   
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luther
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Posted by: jboldman
what was the date of the posting of this cycle?

jb

2004


   
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