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(@sizeon)
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im thinking about using sust, Tren Ace and, eq for my next cycle. any feedback would be nice. not positive but it would look like this

1-12 sust 650 a week (4 shots a week of 1/2 ml)
1-12 eq 500 a week (2 shots a week of 250mg)
5-12 tren ace 350 a week (ED shots of 50 mg)

pct would be nolva and clomid and possibly something else


   
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(@jdawg)
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ok i normally dont lay out cycle advice cause of my limited experience but i see a few things off jump...first you need to lay out ur stats (age,experience) ect... this will help members with alot of experience help guide you through this,, anyway as for what you laid out,, you show stopping ur test/eq at the same time,, (i wouldnt) always run ur test a lil longer than the other compounds,, also i would suggest running cabaser and possibly letro throughout the cycle as well as hcg (dont need the testes lookn like rasins) also do sum research on tren ace and im sure you will find info stateing that the use of t-3 is suggested .........im sure once you do a lil research and lay out ur stats others will be more and happy to help.....

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(@joesmoe)
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Posted by: SizeOn
im thinking about using sust, tren ace and, eq for my next cycle. any feedback would be nice. not positive but it would look like this

1-12 sust 650 a week (4 shots a week of 1/2 ml)
1-12 eq500 a week (2 shots a week of 250mg)
5-12 tren ace 350 a week (ED shots of 50 mg)

pct would be nolva and clomid and possibly something else

if this is your second cycle:

750mgs per week enanthate1-12
nolvadex 2-12 EOD

feel free to correct anything you dont like or anyone for that matter!

PCT try this:
Week NolvadexHCGAromasinVitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
4 20mgs/day20mgs/day
5 20mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

some people have had alot of success with this pct protocol.GOOD LUCK!!!!


   
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gustavo77
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For your second cycle stick with just two AAS injects. Test-EQ would be fine, test-deca also. I cannot tell you not to use tren in your second cycle cause that would make me a hypocrite, as my second cycle included tren D. In any case two injects are more than enough for a second cycle. As per the pct recommendations above, that is Anthony Robert's pct protocol and it is very flawed. HCG should not be used during pct but on cycle and up to pct. Nolva has no clinical evidence to support it's ability to increase LH or test...as for the Aromasin, A.R. at least got that right...lol, Aromasin is a fantastic pct drug and i use it with great success during pct. For PCT i recommend 100mg of clomid per day for 3 weeks and 25mg of aromasin for 5-6 weeks.

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Tikaelkcin
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Posted by: gustavo77
As per the pct recommendations above, that is Anthony Robert's pct protocol and it is very flawed.HCG should not be used during pct but on cycle and up to pct..

Found this article on exactly this, Interesting and informative read.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.asp x" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Clomid, Nolvadex and HCG in Post Cycle Recovery

Also what brings the natural test back up if clomid doesn't?Is the trick to never have it shiut down ie: HCG?


   
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gustavo77
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Posted by: Tikaelkcin
Found this article on exactly this, Interesting and informative read.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.asp x" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Clomid, Nolvadex and HCG in Post Cycle Recovery

Also what brings the natural test back up if clomid doesn't?Is the trick to never have it shiut down ie: HCG?

Clomid will indeed indirectly help natural test production bro, as stated in the article, what i said is that there is no clinical evidence to support nolva's effectiveness in increasing LH.Notice some points in this article:

"Clomid stimulates the hypothalamus to in turn stimulant (stimulate) the anterior pituitary gland [aka hypophysis (hypothalamus)] to release gonadotrophic (gonadotropic) hormones. The gonadotrophic (gonadotropic) hormones are follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH - aka interstitial cell stimulating hormone (ICSH)). FSH stimulates the testes to produce more testosterone, and LH stimulates them to secrete more testosterone. This feedback mechanism is known as the hypothalamic-pituitary-testes axis (HPTA), and results in an increase of the body's own testosterone production and blood levels rise, to, in part, compensate for the diminishing levels of exogenous steroids. This is vital to minimise post cycle muscle losses......

Important note: Clomid does not (directly), as is often thought, stimulate the release of natural testosterone, but rather works at reducing the estrogenicinhibition caused by the steroid cycle. It does this in a similar manner to the way it and Nolvadex block estrogen receptors in nipples to combat gyno development, i.e. by blocking the estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus and pituitary thus reducing the inhibition from the elevated estrogen. This allows LH levels to return to normal, or even above normal levels, and in turn, natural testosterone levels to also normalise (normalize)."

I added spelling edits (in brackets) to avoid confusion.Now HCG will indeed keep the leydig cells of the testes stimulated so that they will repond/function normally to the LH spike caused by pct (clomid).

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(@joesmoe)
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Posted by: gustavo77
For your second cycle stick with just two AAS injects.Test-EQ would be fine, test-deca also.I cannot tell you not to use tren in your second cycle cause that would make me a hypocrite, as my second cycle included tren D.In any case two injects are more than enough for a second cycle.As per the pct recommendations above, that is Anthony Robert's pct protocol and it is very flawed.HCG should not be used during pct but on cycle and up to pct.Nolva has no clinical evidence to support it's ability to increase LH or test...as for the Aromasin, A.R. at least got that right...lol, Aromasin is a fantastic pct drug and i use it with great success during pct. For PCT i recommend 100mg of clomid per day for 3 weeks and 25mg of aromasin for 5-6 weeks.

that sounds easy enough.....maybe the old PCT protocol will be different this time.


   
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