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(@jerkoli)
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Stats are Im almost 26 lifted on and off for years. In one year jumped from 14% t0 24%BF at 6 feet and 198lbs. Im doing cardio 6 days a week at about 70% max, lifiting heavy every other day and eating clean and high protein. The sample stack Ive going to take to get the BF down is t3, Clen, and oral stanazol. However the stanazol only peaks at 20 mg a day which seems low to me. I know doing such high cardio and very strict diet will drop my fat but its not going to really help my muscularity. I also have Oral turanabol,clomid and Liv 52 on the way. Is it okay to either increase the stanazol dose or add the the OT, to try and help get some muscle back. should I save the OT and Clomid for after I get rid of all this lard I grew? Should I cut back on cardio and let the T3 and clen do the work while I try to gain back some mass? I havent started this cylce yet but can anyone recommend a modified cylce and doses, or change of routine, basically any improvements that could be made to help reach my goal.What amount of cardio and lifting would you all suggest. Thanks much for the help I just dont wanna mess this first cycle up.


   
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(@suprmn24)
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if anyone knows this its me... i went through the same thing but bottom line is this.. you can take any drug do unlimited amounts of cardio but DIET IS EVERYTHING... you are what you eat in this game. my training is the same its always been hard and intense but until i cranked up the intensity and discipline to attack my diet nothing changed. i was bulky but i looked average at best. now that my diet is on track my body has changed drastically. you r soft about dieting you will look soft no matter what.. take it from me...just some advice. the better u diet the more bang for your buck you will get from the drugs...its a synergistic effect...good luck!


   
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(@jerkoli)
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Yeah thats how I got so fat so soon, cut back on training and diet was nonexistant. Now Im back on lean protein, only eating good fats and on calorie deficit. I certainly agree with diet being everything. I know the cylce is not going to do miracles but what do you think about it as far as adding more stanabol or adding OT to the mix as well.

Thaks much all for your info


   
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(@suprmn24)
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not familiar with ot but stanabol is an excellent hardener/cutter. i noticed a diff without dieting so i can only imagine what it would do with STRICT dieting....


   
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(@jerkoli)
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On that T3, Clen, stanazol cycle the the stanazol maxes out at only 20 mg and only runs the stanazol about 3 weeks. Does that seem low dose to you?
What kind of dose were you taking or were you injecting? Does anyone else have any input on if I can add this OT to the cycle or increase my stan dose


   
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Posted by: jerkoli
On that T3, Clen, stanazol cycle the the stanazol maxes out at only 20 mg and only runs the stanazol about 3 weeks. Does that seem low dose to you?
What kind of dose were you taking or were you injecting?Does anyone else have any input on if I can add this OT to the cycle or increase my stan dose

i used 50 mgs of stanazol daily... youll have to get someone to help with t3..ill be using that for my show but ive got a seasoned vet helping me..as for the clen..i started at 25mcgs 2xday, morning/eve and ill probably run the stanzol for 3 months, one 50 mg tab daily...


   
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Bump for anymore input about this cycle and if I should run the OT with the stan, clen, T3 cycle. I have 10mgstanazol(300pills)clen40mcg(100pills), T3 10mcg(100pills) one box of Clomid and bottle of LIV 52, but only 200 (10mg pills of oral turanabol. Could anyone please suggest an updated cyle with this combo or recommend changes. Im just not sure on the timeing of the T3 since I knew it doesnt care what it burns being fat or muscle. So I wonder If I should wait to use the OT after the T3. That and I have seen some cyles combining both T3 and Clen at the same time is okay to do for a short period of time. I would just use the ECA but Ive been on night shift for 5 years and already go through almost 40 ephedrine pills at 25 mg a week so ECA does nothing for me. Thanks much if you guys can help me out with this first cycle.


   
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