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21/03/2022 12:14 pm
I've since gone to a 10 wk cycle as opposed to the 8 wk I was going to do initially. I have literally spent hours upon hours on this forum investigating and educating myself. I want to do this cycle as safely as possible, without going overboard. I feel very comfortable with this cycle, since its been quite a few years since I've taken any gear. Can I get any thumbs up? any advice is welcome, thanks again guys... This cycle was created with Sunday as my start day.
Week 1
400mgs Andropen275 /wk e.o.d. @ .475cc (approx. 412.5mg’s per week) Sun,Tue,Thur,Sat
250mgs deca/ wk @ 1cc - Sunday
Week 2
400mgs Andropen275 /wk e.o.d. @ .5cc Mon,Wed,Fri,
250mgs Deca / wk @ 1cc
Week 3
400mgs Andropen275 /wk 2wice weekly @ .75cc Sun. morning / Wed. night
250mgs Deca / wk @ 1cc – Sunday
Week 4
400mgs Andropen275 /wk 2wice weekly @ .75cc Sun. morning / Wed. night
250mgs Deca / wk @ 1cc – Sunday
HCG 250iu - Sun, Wed
Week 5
400mgs Andropen275 /wk 2wice weekly @ .75cc Sun. morning / Wed. night
300mgs Deca / wk @ 1.2cc – Sunday
hcg 250iu - Sun, Wed
Week 6
400mgs Andropen275 /wk 2wice weekly @ .75cc Sun. morning / Wed. night
300mgs Deca / wk @ 1.2cc – Sunday
hcg 250iu - Sun, Wed
Week 7
400mgs Andropen275 /wk 2wice weekly @ .75cc Sun morning / Wed. night
250mgs Deca / wk @ 1cc – Sunday
Week 8
400mgs Andropen275 /wk 2wice weekly @ .75cc Sun morning / Wed. night
250mgs Deca / wk @ 1cc – Sunday
Week 9
350mgs Andropen275 /wk 2wice weekly @ .65cc Sun morning / Wed. night
250mgs Deca / wk @ 1cc – Sunday
Week 10
350mgs Andropen275 /wk 2wice weekly @ .65cc Sun morning / Wed. night
(no deca) - (half life of deca is 7 days longer than test cyp.)
hcg – 1500iu Sunday (every fifth day there after x 4 days)
Week 11
hcg – 1000iu Friday (5 days from last shot)
Week 12
Hcg – 500iu Wednesday (5 days from last shot)
clomid 100mgs –ed (start wed. night) (14 - 21 days from last inject) -need further evaluation
40mg nolva- ed
Week 13
Hcg – 500iu Monday (5 days from last shot)
clomid 50mgs –ed (start wed. night) (21 days from last inject)
40mg nolva - ed
Week 14
clomid 50mgs –ed (start wed. night)
20mg nolva - ed
21/03/2022 12:34 pm
no need to taper the deca or test it makes no difference at all run the deca for the full 10 weeks also. Yout using a bot too much hcg for my choice starting it 2 early. Make sure you have plenty of extra nolva on hand as it spikes ones estrogen level, With every hcg inject I would use 40mg nolva. I also think your pct is a bit low. start it week 13 as follows.
week 13 150mg clomid/60mg nolva ed
week 14 100mg clomid/40mg nolva ed
week 15 50mg clomid/30mg nolva ed
I also do not see the need to run hcg during the pct only up until it.
my cycle would like this.
1-10 400mg andropen
1-10 300mg deca
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Topic starter
21/03/2022 1:02 pm
D.K. thanks for the advice man... its greatly appreciated. I will not taper on the Andropen and Deca.. just let it run its full ten weeks at same dosage.
I have a question about your hcg comments though. I was reading up on hcg on this forum and found a lot of information about taking it mid cycle to ward off any testicular atrophy. As for taking the hcg post cycle? what dosage would you recommend? and should I start it a week before my last inject and end it a week before clomid/nolva?
Thanks again for your input
mrfortlauderdale
21/03/2022 1:30 pm
Bump to DK...I completely agree.
21/03/2022 1:48 pm
1-10 400mg Test
1-10 250mg Deca
1-13 .25mg Cabaser e4d (any amount of Prolactin will keep you shut down... Some amount of deca will be in your system for 3 weeks)
5-13 500iu HCG 2 X a week ( Once you get shut down or worse shut down hard its harder for the testies to respond to LH during PCT so its best to stimulate them to work a little so they never shut down)
1-16 2.5mg Letrozole a day... avoid estrogen related problems... I havn't read a study as of yet that says you need estrogen to build muscle... Even at this dose you will still have above normal estrogen levels... Estrogen can fill your muscles with water but it's not going to build muscle,, but you will feel a bit more pumped but I feel plenty pumped while using this dose and still strong as hell... Why use Letrozole all the way through PCT you ask?... because Letrozole and Aromasin has been proven to increase your natural production of test by over 53%... keep your estrogens low during PCT and your natural test level will get higher then normal... People may disagree because of what they have been told in the past but when you do the research it points to doing the PCT like this...
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Topic starter
21/03/2022 2:09 pm
good info man...
I'll be ordering the cabares shortly...
Q: will I see a lot of water retention from this cycle?
21/03/2022 2:39 pm
Think you got all the advice you need brotha, good luck and hit it hard