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19/08/2019 9:51 am
Well... I jacked it bad. Lifting monday night, slipped on form for a split second, next thing I knew I was on the ground looking like a gimp. I finally made it to a chiro the next day, but not until I had crawled around my house on my hands and knees because of the intense pain. Doc has done 4 treatments on me now and says it was a serverly herniated disc, lucky not to have been worse, but he says the recovery I have made is very good. I have almost no restriction of movement, it is still very sore due to the inflamation though. I want to get back in and rehab it asap, but obviously not too soon as to cause it to not heal up all the way. Once a disc has been herniated, is it ever the same? Is one more prone to this type of injury again if it has happened? Is there anything that can be done to prevent this from happening again (other than obviously not being a tool and slipping form, i.e. hyperextensions, etc)? Basically Im just kinda hesitant to get back in and load up the weight, even if I feel 100% back, just because Im not sure if I am succeptible (sp?) to this type of injury again. So, what im asking is... anyone dealt with this before and what is your situation now? Thanks a ton. BTW, FORM FORM FORM on your deadlifts!! 6 years of solid training without a serious injury... i piss me off.
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19/08/2019 10:19 am
I'm pretty sure that once you have herniated the disk, it will not "heal" per se although your symptoms may improve. I have a powerlifting buddy who has 4 herniated disks from years of heavy squats and he still gets it done.
19/08/2019 10:49 am
Sorry about that dude. You may avoid any kind of overhead lift, deadlift, squat, heavy curls and leg presses.
You will have to adaptate yor training a lot, but once it is all set, you be training heavy again.
Try intramuscular Vit. B shots everyday whenever you feel sore and will have to have periods of active rest during the year, I mean when your have a backache try to stop training for 7 days. Good luck, don't feel sad but be strong.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
19/08/2019 11:17 am
exellent advice. you also might go to t doc and get some baseline xrays done.
jb
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19/08/2019 11:36 am
by the way... I did ask the chiro all these questions myself, but his answers were wishy washy, nothing straight forward. Basically it was all maybe, maybe not stuff.
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19/08/2019 12:04 pm
Too bad. Maybe you might want to reseach about core training, but don't go those crazy upside-down exercises, there are excellent simple ones.
Where the injury is located?
JB is right you should have at least a X-Ray done or better yet a magnetic resonance imaging exam.
I think that rehab is always a good idea whenever you have the injury exacerbated.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
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19/08/2019 12:27 pm
Well I had my last chiro session today and I did have an xray the first day I went in. He said one of the vertabrae was slightly twisted and tilted down, but other than that, he could not tell much without an MRI. I am much much better today, after a few days of adjustments and finally getting some naproxen for the inflammation. He said that it appears to have been just a pretty bad herniated disc, but he expects me to be comletely out of pain pretty soon. He was surprised at how "in line" my adjustments are staying, so that was good. He also said that getting back in is a very good thing, as long as I come in easy and rehab it correctly, so starting next wednesday, thats what I plan on doing. Only missing 1.5 weeks is a sigh of relief after how long I thought I might really be out.
Freedom Is NOT Free
19/08/2019 12:57 pm
Well I had my last chiro session today and I did have an xray the first day I went in. He said one of the vertabrae was slightly twisted and tilted down, but other than that, he could not tell much without an MRI. I am much much better today, after a few days of adjustments and finally getting some naproxen for the inflammation. He said that it appears to have been just a pretty bad herniated disc, but he expects me to be comletely out of pain pretty soon. He was surprised at how "in line" my adjustments are staying, so that was good. He also said that getting back in is a very good thing, as long as I come in easy and rehab it correctly, so starting next wednesday, thats what I plan on doing. Only missing 1.5 weeks is a sigh of relief after how long I thought I might really be out.
That's good news bro, rock on.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
19/08/2019 1:20 pm
I'm pretty sure that once you have herniated the disk, it will not "heal" per se although your symptoms may improve. I have a powerlifting buddy who has 4 herniated disks from years of heavy squats and he still gets it done.
I have one herniated and degenerated disc, and I can still do most of the things I want to. The only thing that causes me pain is sitting for long periods and doing lunges and martial arts.
The sitting part I try hard to avoid, and I think my problem with lunges (or any single leg activities) is muscular weakness which I could fix.
It took me about 4-6 weeks to get better from the herniation, and physical therapy helped me a lot, mostly in terms of education. So take it easy for a bit, but after that you should be able to get back to lifting heavy. If you wait too long you'll lose muscle and that just makes the back problems worse.
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19/08/2019 1:47 pm
Bro...
I have a lot of experience in this category. First, let me state, I'm actually making plans to get surgery at the moment for 4 slipped discs I have now - L1 through S1.
You need to go see a neurologist first thing. They will put you through a series of tests. Next thing, you might consider getting cortisone shots. I've had 8 of them in the past 2 years. They are temporary relief and my experience is that I would not recommend getting them. They are bad for your body and the relief is temporary (maybe a week or two).
Do a lot of stretching and get massages.
Have your neurologist recommend a treatment plan based off of the MRI results. If things are bad, then look for a doctor for surgery. They will do a first procedure called a discograph, which they insert shit into your spine and dye as well. They will put pressure on your discs to see if there are any cracks in them and then know after that what procedure they will need to conduct on you.
The three procedures they usually do are:
1) Cutting discs out and fusing remaining ones together - Worst case scenario
2) Cutting discs out and putting artificial ones in - second case scenario
3) Sucking out fluid that makes your back inflammed - 80% success rate - best case scenario.
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19/08/2019 2:05 pm
Well I had my last chiro session today and I did have an xray the first day I went in. He said one of the vertabrae was slightly twisted and tilted down, but other than that, he could not tell much without an MRI. I am much much better today, after a few days of adjustments and finally getting some naproxen for the inflammation. He said that it appears to have been just a pretty bad herniated disc, but he expects me to be comletely out of pain pretty soon. He was surprised at how "in line" my adjustments are staying, so that was good. He also said that getting back in is a very good thing, as long as I come in easy and rehab it correctly, so starting next wednesday, thats what I plan on doing. Only missing 1.5 weeks is a sigh of relief after how long I thought I might really be out.
Im glad that he actually told you that you need an MRI. Conventional X-rays dont really allow you to view soft tissue that well. Ive had surgery for this and Ill tell you that I would not even consider having any type of surgery unless you just cannot stand the pain. I spent a year and a half in a lot of pain, went through reha and several injections as well as radio frequency to deaden the nerves. The radio frequency helped a lot, but the others..........not so much.
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19/08/2019 3:42 pm
Man, its much better now than I expected it to be at this point. I just started lifting light on it and the only real complaint is that is pretty much always feels like I just got done deadlifting.... always sore. There is sharp pain every once in a while that will run down my leg, but its not too much to stand. Overall, I think I have gotten out lucky.
Freedom Is NOT Free
19/08/2019 4:06 pm
i herniated two discs, L-4 and L-5, and tore a ligament... unfortunately i found this out after continuing to train after 2 months and only when i was unable to walk (literally, i couldnt move) and was taken to get an MRI did i find out what exactly was wrong... i have since been doing therapy (2 hours a day for what will be a total of 25 treatments) with decompression, ice and electrical stimulation, heat and adjustments... i will begin my 14th treatment on monday and have since made remarkable progress... new MRI and xray from last week shows my tear to be almost completly healed and my discs are now much fuller... i began training again after my 4th treatment, however was very limited; no squating, bending or jerking of any kind.. i am expected to be completely healed by the end of june and should be able to train fully by the end of may (with the exception of heavy weight) and no, a herniated disc is not herniated forever, it heals, its just a protrusion of the nucleus on the the nerve, usually be weakend collagen surrounding the nucleus in the disc. i strongly suggest you think about getting decompression treatments... they are costly (insurance did not cover and paid $3500 for all 25) but is well worth it, if you need more info on exactly how the procedure works i will be happy to post the info
19/08/2019 4:26 pm
30% of the population over 40 have herniated discs in the spine that they are not even aware of! You need an MRI or CT scan of the spine to diagnose a herniated disc even though the doc might "guess" that you have one based on your clinical presentation. Surgery is always a last resort! Chiropractic care with Spinal decompression have kept my 3 herniated discs stabe for quite some time.
19/08/2019 4:49 pm
If you want to avoid disc problems, be careful with the squats (specially the deep ones), poor form deadlifts, barbell rows, overhead presses, and barbell curls. And gotta stretch a lot.
"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.
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